Fusion Climbing Gear
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Fusion Climbing Gear |
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The figure 8 did perform well. I had never used one before this, so I can't really compare it to anything. They are a little nicer to rap with than an ATC, but they don't serve much else of a purpose and aren't worth their weight. They are fun though, and smooth for rappelling. |
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After seeing personally what BD goes through with their testing, QA and certification, I hesitate to purchase gear from a company that stamps "UIAA Zoom" on one carabiner of the quickdraw. |
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Price wrote:After seeing personally what BD goes through with their testing, QA and certification, I hesitate to purchase gear from a company that stamps "UIAA Zoom" on one carabiner of the quickdraw. The extra $2 per biner that you spend on certified UIAA and CE gear is worth it. That being said, when fusion biners are certified, assuming the design is good. I'll try them out.If you search for the Fusion brand on the UIAA certified equipment site ( theuiaa.org/certified_equip…), you'll see that the Essence, Techno, and Zoom biners are all UIAA certified. That's still a far cry from having all of their products certified, but it certainly progress in the right direction. It seems like it's a company trying to get their feet off the ground, but I'd imagine things like UIAA certification doesn't come cheap. Once those biners and slings in the quickdraws are certified though, it is hard to beat $7.50 taxes and shipping in for a draw... |
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UIAA and oh so nice. |
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Price wrote:UIAA and oh so nice. rei.com/product/798963I never said that BD draws aren't nice or that they can't be found cheap on sale, I only said that $7.50 for a UIAA certified draw will be a great deal. More competition is always a good thing, and it seems like they're going in the right direction. I'm with you until they are in fact certified though...maybe I'd use one to hang my water bottle on my pack, but not to catch my big ass in a whipper. |
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Ian Stewart wrote: If you search for the Fusion brand on the UIAA certified equipment site ( theuiaa.org/certified_equip…), you'll see that the Essence, Techno, and Zoom biners are all UIAA certified. That's still a far cry from having all of their products certified, but it certainly progress in the right direction. It seems like it's a company trying to get their feet off the ground, but I'd imagine things like UIAA certification doesn't come cheap. Once those biners and slings in the quickdraws are certified though, it is hard to beat $7.50 taxes and shipping in for a draw...They may be now, but when the sales rep posted up about their new gear line months ago they weren't UIAA certified, even though they claimed to be. While the sales rep was cordial, he knew absolutely nothing about climbing gear, nor did it seem the people who wrote the language for the website. While that doesn't necessarily have any correlation to the quality of the gear, I personally prefer to buy my climbing gear from climbing companies. The prices at the time were around, and in many cases well above that of equivalent namebrand gear. I also recall the specs being marginal compared to the latest offerings from major biner manufacturers. I'm all for an open market and allowance for the entrance of new companies, but I'm far more cautious when it comes to climbing gear. Regardless, I'm not going to buy generic gear with inferior specs when I could go to BD or Wildcountry for the same price. So while the OP of this thread may say there was nothing more than flaming and grammar correction on the original thread, there were legitimate issues raised. I don't know about the thread on MP.com, but the one on RC.com is worth reading if you're considering buying their gear. |
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the old UIAA cert -2008
To Ryan Kelly, thank you for the feedback that you posted earlier. Just to clear the confusion, we got all our cert since 2008, this is one of them. more cert will be available upon request. The UIAA website had a glitch back then when people tried to search for our cert, but they corrected after we reported the problem to UIAA. Please feel free to contact us directly if you have any questions. Thanks! Cindy T. here is my direct email address: cindyt@fusionclimb.com |
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As in the link posted above, this Fusion gear doesn't really look less expensive than brand name stuff. Also, it looks big and heavy... like 2001 technology! if the cost came down a lot, like to 2/3 of BD prices, I might consider it. Otherwise, why get lower quality gear for damn near the same price? |
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I looked into Fusion's certifications, their Techno biners were certified until 31 Dec 2011, but apparently they let the cert. lapse. |
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I have held their large delta swivel in my hand and compared it to a petzl swivel L. The Fusion swivel had tons of play (lets say .030") in the bearing joint compared to a petzl swivel which has none. The quality of their hardware compared to the major companies is noticeable. |
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what the fuck is that? |
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Their website says it is used for a paragliding application. |
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Locker wrote:Oh yeah! I'm for sure gonna be needing one of these...Naw, those are for corner placements, where you have to move left or right around a sharp corner. Otherwise why would they be square?(rectangular, that is),, I'm gonna get me a rack full of them! |
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Locker wrote:"what the fuck is that?" I bought a bunch and use them for my DRAWS.I'm going to put them on my rack of link cams for sure! |
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Ray Pinpillage wrote:Their website says it is used for a paragliding application.Yup, those carabiners, or the shape at least, is used in paragliding because it a)keeps the lines laid out evenly and b) prevents the lines from moving around and cross loading the carabiner. |
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mmmm, link cams |
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Mitch you the same guy who thought gear 4 rocks stuff was good? |
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And don't forget, bd hard goods are made right here in the great U-S OF EH! |
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Hello, |
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my work used fusion gear for a hot minute and the soft goods like webbing and harnesses sucked. frayed rather quickly and the harnesses were poorly stitched ". I recently tossed out about 15 brand new short slings and 5 daisy chains. not worth saving or using |