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Fun Stuff 

YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c

Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 60'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.8 French: 5b Ewbanks: 16 UIAA: VI- ZA: 15 British: HVS 4c [details]
FA: Herb Laeger and Howard Doyle, December 1977
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Submitted By: Kevin Currigan on Feb 2, 2004

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At the Second Bolt on "Fun Stuff". Photo By Jeff L...


This is the first promising looking crack on the south facing north formation. This climb is fun as the name implies with some thoughtful moves but plenty of big holds and nice rests. For spice move left at the top over the slight overhang-good hands and feet.


Medium cams and nuts. Double bolts and chains at the top.

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Climber following on Fun Stuff (5.8), Joshua Tree NP
Climber following on Fun Stuff (5.8), Joshua Tree ...
Natalie Duran on Fun Stuff - Joshua Tree
Natalie Duran on Fun Stuff - Joshua Tree
There is a sign, so you can find it. <br />Photo by Blitzo.
BETA PHOTO: There is a sign, so you can find it.
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"Fun Stuff". <br />Photo by Blitzo.
BETA PHOTO: "Fun Stuff".
Photo by Blitzo.
Looking up Fun Stuff (5.8).  The two bolts are visible in the photo
BETA PHOTO: Looking up Fun Stuff (5.8). The two bolts are vis...
Just past the First Bolt on "Fun Stuff". Photo By Jeff Laina
BETA PHOTO: Just past the First Bolt on "Fun Stuff". Photo By ...
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By Blake H.
Dec 8, 2004

Like the name implies, this is a very enjoyable climb. If I remember correctly, the beginning is some slab climbing past two bolts before you reach the crack. The move past the first bolt is MUCH harder than 5.8 IMHO. Either that, or I'm starting on the wrong route.

By Locker
From: Yucca Valley, CA
Dec 8, 2004
rating: 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b

It is deffinatly not harder than 5.8. I see on this site it is rated 5.8. Is it the same in Randys and Als guides? I thought it was rated 5.6. It is not hard by any measure of the word. I stick with 5.6.

By Blake H.
Dec 9, 2004

I agree with your comments on the lack of difficulty. I just seem to have a hard time with the first move. Maybe it's just me.

By mmurduff
Oct 23, 2005
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

Its been two years since I first lead Fun Stuff and I can't remember the start being too difficult. I went back agin this weekend and was totally surprised by the ultimately crimpy start of this 5.8. The climb begins with small crimpers on flaking & crumbling rock w/o foot holds. Yeah the first bolt is close enough you could clip and pull your way through it, but thats not the game we play. Same type of crimpers past the second bolt, however, the rock is more sound. The rest of the climb is stable and not harder than 5.8; and worthy of two stars!

It's all so subjectiveMike

By Adam Stackhouse
Feb 21, 2006
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Fun route, always crowded.

By Chris Swope
From: Greeley, co
Mar 15, 2006

Just lead this for the first time this last week and WOW what a cool move off the deck. I would definately say that the first move is pushing the 5.8 envelope but the rest of the route is at best 5.7.

By Blitzo
Sep 28, 2006

It's pretty fun stuff! Good thing the sign is there, I would have been lost.

By climber73
From: Fort Collins, CO
Oct 8, 2007

This is a really fun route. Like several other J-Tree routes, the first 10 feet don't really count in the rating. The start was hard, but the rest of the climbing was easy and fun at 5.8.

By Brian in SLC
Jan 2, 2008
rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a

I found the start to be harder than the Echo Buttress TR to the right. Maybe its a short person's climb...ha ha.

Topped out by mantling off the finish jug at climber's left. On the rappel off, noticed that wasn't the "easy" way to finish. Sporty! Fun route.

By Drew Peterson
Jan 17, 2009
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

this is 5.8 in my book. The slab moves down low are the hard part, and are part of the climb... thus they go into my rating of the route.

By Brandontyrrell
Apr 22, 2010
rating: 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c

A smaller cam (blue master cam) helped for the top

By Kevin Eloury
Nov 9, 2010

Does anyone know what small overhang and wall left of Fun Stuff, Trad around 5.8 could not find it in any guide so far?

Wall left of Fun Stuff
Wall left of Fun Stuff

By Rodger Raubach
Nov 12, 2010

A pretty nice and steep, exciting climb. Did this a long time ago; just found my old notes on Joshua Tree. Didn't have any cams then...only nuts. Definitely more fun than grunt! Big chickenheads at top lead to a surprising finish.

By Doug99
Dec 9, 2010
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

Fun climb. The first move is very tough, and I'd say more of a 5.9+. The bolt it right there though, so fall all you want. The fun stuff is at the top.

By Nathan Scherneck
From: Portland, OR
Dec 18, 2010
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

I agree with Brian about the finishing mantle. Using the jug makes the move more difficult. I found the opening moves to B1 and the finishing mantle deserving of the 5.8 rating, the rest being about 5.6+.

By NDTitanLady
Nov 20, 2011
rating: 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b

Hardest moves on it is right off the ground, and the mantle to get to the anchors. Bring up some slings to extend the anchors unless you want horrible rope drag.

Also wolverine guide book says there is one bolt, there are two bolts on the bottom of the climb.

By Violet
From: CA
Feb 27, 2012
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Led this, and agree that the move to get above the first bolt is harder than a typical Jtree 5.8: slabtacular and micro-crimps with nothing at all for feet. The last mantle move at the top is heady on lead, but not hard.

By Canon
Nov 17, 2012
rating: 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

Crux low, then a very fun romp on great gear!

By tom9382
Jan 4, 2014
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

The bottom part is very difficult and super polished. After that it's a pretty solid 5.8 climb.