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By topher donahue
Jul 7, 2012

Airbiscuit,
What about the toxins in the air? This recent study by CU Denver shows people living within a half-mile of oil-and-gas fracking operations were exposed to air pollutants — such as trimethylbenzenes, aliaphatic hydrocarbons, and xylenes — five times above U.S. hazard standards:

www.ucdenver.edu/about/newsroom/newsreleases/Pages/health-im>>>

I don't see why this has to be a "You're either with us or against us" subject - some limits, like not fracking next to schools and in neighborhoods, doesn't seem to me as absurd as you obviously think it is.

I didn't realize that natural gas was "Black gold" like you say - I didn't even know it was black! Here I thought it was a colorless gas!
Obviously you're right, I haven't learned anything. Drill baby drill!


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By snicho
From Boulder, CO
Jul 9, 2012
me on Binou's Crack in Indian Creek

www.truthlandmovie.com/the-facts/


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By topher donahue
Jul 9, 2012

Truthland doesn't explain the air pollution issues at all, but I guess that's not surprising coming from the Independent Petroleum Association of America.

For some reason most people seem to be either all for it with no limits, or vehemently against it. Neither one seems like good way to more forward - such is the sadly polarized problem solving system in America. We could replace "fracking" with "banking" and have pretty much the same discussion about regulation, some all for it, some entirely against it, but neither side being able to do a thing about it. Oh well. Thanks for the discussion.


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By skitch
From Heaven
Jul 10, 2012
Are you Chicken, or fishy?

My father in law works for a company that does fracking in west texas. I was amazed when he said that fracking wasn't a good thing. Partly because it uses an insane amount of water in a part of the country that's been in a drought, and because his water well now tastes bad and has sulfur in it despite being great water for at least 20 years.


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By Adam B
From Wheat Ridge, CO
Jul 11, 2012
Middle St. Vrain

If you want published scientific information about some of this technology, in order to make an informed decision of your own, go here.

www.intechopen.com/books/advances-in-natural-gas-technology

I believe it is open access, but if there is a chapter you want, and can't access it, pm me and I can send it to you.

From my perspective, the problem with energy development is that the technology always outpaces the scientific understanding of the impacts of that technology. Energy companies have a lot money to dump into emerging technologies that will increase profit. Scientists that study physical, chemical and biological processes in the environment have small budgets because knowledge about natural systems is not a commodity. Unfortunately, due to these facts, bad shit happening is usually how scientists and corporations begin to understand flaws in these technologies.

If you really want to get freaked out about shit that will make you and your family sick or dead, think about your exposure to chemicals we know little about when we use pesticides, degreasers, cleaning fluids and various aromatic compounds around our houses. Nobody ever complains about chemical companies inventing crazy organic compounds to kill creepy crawlies and make you smell good. All of us have a huge impact on water quality when we dispose of pesticides and pharmaceuticals incorrectly. But this isn't hot topic political stuff, so...?


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By topher donahue
Jul 11, 2012

Adam, thanks for that. It's interesting to learn that while fracking has been used for other things for some time, the natural gas fracking that is so prevalent now only really got going in the 90s.

I couldn't agree more about the nasty junk in the rest of our lives. In the future, I'm sure people will call our time the Toxic Ages. Post-Industrual-Revolution-think-we-know-everything, but filling our world and bodies with nasty shit without even realizing it.

That's one of the things I love about climbing - even groveling up a guano-filled crack feels cleaner than shopping in Target.


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By Turd Ferguson!
Jul 11, 2012
The hat is funny

Airbiscuit wrote:
That rig is going to be there for two weeks (Maybe), the fracking crew another two weeks... Meanwhile that single drilling operation can produce periphial employment of up to 500 jobs.


Let's qualify this a little bit - A drilling rig is going to be there about 2 weeks per well. How many pads out there have only a single well? Not many (though I can't speak about the Marselles Shale), however, in western CO you know very well that many pads see 20+ wells per pad and some, say south of Rifle are going to see 40+ wells per pad. So now do the math... (40 wells)(2 wks per well)=80 wks of a drill rig sitting there, plus frac time (though there will be sym ops) plus workover operations, loads of pump truck traffic, reclamation, etc.

And come on - 500 jobs per drilling operation?! That is flat out industry BS that tries to say that the wait staff at a local restaurant is due to the gas industry, the local police is due to the gas industry, and everyone else in town owes there job to the heroes drilling - "Oil and Gas Feeds my Family and Yours," right?

I couldn't imagine living next to a drilling pad or having my kids going to a school anywhere near a reserve pit.


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