Flake Traverse 

This is definitely NOT a V4. Maybe a V2...probably a V1+

I agree, the flake is defnitely not a V4, V1+ sounds about right. Thats what I figure, the hardest problem I've ever finished was V2, and that was harder than the flake.

The crux is a VERY slipery left hand slopper/pinch grip that is a difficult hold if your hand is not large, and it is a loooong layback/reach for shorter climbers. V-3 seems like a reasonable rating.

Didnt anyone read the "don't be a jerk" guideline? V1+? Give me a f'n break. Downrating it after you have it wired is poor form.

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this problem all depends on height. when i was first working on it i was about 5' 3" but i made up some short people beta which was about a V3. now i can do the normal way, which i think, if you can make the reach easily is about a V2. but all of the problems at Indian Rock are debateable. they are all eliminates which makes them all very height dependant.

Some variations for you to have fun with, if youre bored with the flake...

-Try sit-starting way down and right around the corner by the stairs, and don't touch the big ledges under the flake!
-For the crux move, go to the ear instead of the flat edge of the jed-clampett hold (easier if you can reach.)
-Gaston on the snatch hold instead of using the jed-clampett hold (the same difficulty but it looks cooler)

And for the record id say v1 for a tall person reaching all the way to the ear, v2 using the standard beta, v3 if you start way around right and dont use the big ledges at all.

compared to the other Indian rock v-2s this route is WAY harder. I aced a lot of the easy routes, but this one took some time to get. I would say this is at least a solid v-3.