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By Tom Howes
From Bozeman, MT
Jan 30, 2013

Did Fiveten discontinue the Supermocc? I can't find it anywhere... anybody want to sell me a 9.5?


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By Rob Warden, Space Lizard
From Springdale Ut
Jan 30, 2013
blah

they are gone, you can call them and ask if they have any...or check their webstore.


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By camhead
Jan 30, 2013
This painting was taken from engravings made during the 1859 Macomb Expedition, which attempted to locate the confluence of the Green and Colorado Rivers   in the present-day Needles District of Canyonlands National Park.  Anyone who has spent time in Indian Creek will recognize the features here. <br /> <br />If you're interested, the survey's official report, as well as more landscape paintings like this one, are available in full on google books. <br /> <br /><a href='http://books.google.com/books?id=674QAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=macomb+expedition&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DvEeT9KcFvC40gHIuukH&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=macomb%20expedition&f=false' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >books.google.com/books?id=674QAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&d>>></a>

WTF, are you kidding?

(pours out a 40oz for the Rocksox, Zlippers, Projects, and Supermoccs. But not the Southwests, those things sucked)


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By Langlois
From NYC
Jan 30, 2013

and V10s?...


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By Devin Fin
From DURANGO
Jan 30, 2013
hand fist stack.

V 10's no shit !


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By frankstoneline
Jan 30, 2013

Rob Warden, Space Lizard wrote:
they are gone, you can call them and ask if they have any...or check their webstore.


None on the 5.10 webstore, and none I could find on the google (slow work day). Moosejaw has em in size 5 i think, otherwise looks like slim pickins.


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By Rob Warden, Space Lizard
From Springdale Ut
Jan 31, 2013
blah

i know sux...you could always belt sand some regular moccs that thin but...


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By AdamB
From Charlotte, NC
Jan 31, 2013
Black Boulder Problem, sent after a generous skin donation

ah, the V10's I wore those things until they looked like they had been nibbled to death by hamsters...

if it ain't broke, dont fix it!


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By GabeO
From Denver, CO
Jan 31, 2013

camhead wrote:
WTF, are you kidding? (pours out a 40oz for the Rocksox, Zlippers, Projects, and Supermoccs. But not the Southwests, those things sucked)


And the original pink laceup anasazis.

But not for the supermoccs, because I loaded up on multiples when I had the chance.

GO


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By Portwood
From Your moms house last night
Jan 31, 2013
Me

I diden't belive you... then I looked...
SON-OF-A...


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By camhead
Feb 3, 2013
This painting was taken from engravings made during the 1859 Macomb Expedition, which attempted to locate the confluence of the Green and Colorado Rivers   in the present-day Needles District of Canyonlands National Park.  Anyone who has spent time in Indian Creek will recognize the features here. <br /> <br />If you're interested, the survey's official report, as well as more landscape paintings like this one, are available in full on google books. <br /> <br /><a href='http://books.google.com/books?id=674QAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=macomb+expedition&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DvEeT9KcFvC40gHIuukH&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=macomb%20expedition&f=false' target='_blank' rel='nofollow' >books.google.com/books?id=674QAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&d>>></a>

GabeO wrote:
And the original pink laceup anasazis. But not for the supermoccs, because I loaded up on multiples when I had the chance. GO


Damn, I loaded up on Projects, but did not think that Five Ten would be lame enough to discontinue the Supermoccs in just a few years.


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By Sean H
From San Francisco, CA
Feb 7, 2013
Celebrating after a night of hiking up the mule train.

I much preferred the fit of the supermoccs too, especially the heal.

That said, I can understand them deciding that their customers liked the fit of the original Moc better, and just sticking with that, but...

Why didn't they at least keep the untreated leather around? If I were in the tribe of habitual Moc users, the constant red feet would piss me off.


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By Larry S
Feb 7, 2013
The wife and I road-trippin on the Connie.

I was just up at North Summit Rock Gym, in Wind Gap, PA - they have both the supermocs and V10's in stock. They don't have an online retailer, but you can call or e-mail them - (610) 863-4444 info@northsummitclimbing.com


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By Taylor Spiegelberg
From Sheridan, Wyoming
Feb 8, 2013

Speaking of supermocc's, can these be resoled? They're so thin I feel like its not possible but I want mine to last!


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By GabeO
From Denver, CO
Feb 14, 2013

Taylor Spiegelberg wrote:
Speaking of supermocc's, can these be resoled? They're so thin I feel like its not possible but I want mine to last!


Not with the original Mystique rubber, since Five Ten doesn't sell it. And AFAIK, no-one else sells anything comparable in terms of thinness and durability. Also, I've heard resolers say they're a pain, because they have no last in the forefoot. I guess that's part of what makes them so thin, but may be a problem for resolers.

I should be getting my first resole of a Supermocc back from Rock & Resole within a few days - I'll let y'all know how it went.

GO


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By Will S
From Joshua Tree
Feb 14, 2013

GabeO wrote:
Also, I've heard resolers say they're a pain, because they have no last in the forefoot. I guess that's part of what makes them so thin, but may be a problem for resolers. GO



Actually, they have no midsole. The last is the foot-shaped chunk of plastic or wood that they sew the shoe around, it's not a part of the shoes themselves. It's kind of like a mold for making a shoe.

Typically, a resoler will grind the existing rubber down to the midsole, then put on new rubber. There is a little room for error in grinding. But if you have no midsole at all, a tiny error in grinding (which isn't exactly a precision endeavor to start with) puts a hole through your shoe.

If I were a resoler, I wouldn't touch those things. Normally, you could just leave a little excess rubber on and "stack" the new rubber on top of the remainder of the old. This is a relatively popular procedure down here in Josh (large grainy rock, eats rubber), where you expect to resole a shoe many, many times. But you can't do that on these, because the super-thin profile is part of the appeal of the shoe.

Personally, I just keep a pair of regular Mocs around that are about 90% of the way to resole. A little seam grip over the toe knuckles and you've bsaically got a supermoc but without that extra thickness of the toecap/rand over the smaller toes (which probably offsets having the thin sole anyway when you're talking about overall toe profile thickness)


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By GabeO
From Denver, CO
Feb 15, 2013

Will S wrote:
Actually, they have no midsole. The last is the foot-shaped chunk of plastic or wood that they sew the shoe around, it's not a part of the shoes themselves. It's kind of like a mold for making a shoe.


Thanks for the correction.

As for Moccs with some seam grip being functionally equivalent - nope. That's what I used previously (and still do on occasions where I don't want to waste the Supermoccs) and they just aren't as thin.

Course I've been known to just get rid of the shoes entirely and tape my toes. But that's cheating. ;)

GO


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By Timmy Foulkes
Feb 17, 2013
climbing at EA

I got my Super Mocs resoled and they are still great. Rock-n-Resole did an awesome job. It was not the Mystic rubber but they have thinned up nicely and are doing well in thin cracks. I don't know if they will make it through another resole but if not I guess its back to the red foot blues. That said, there's not really a better shoe out there for thin cracks (in my opinion) than the mocs since the supers are gone. Oh well. It was good while it lasted.


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By Bret Thompson
From Madison, WI
Mar 8, 2013

If anyone is still looking, someone on geartrade has a pair of supermoccs in a 10.5 for sale.

www.geartrade.com/item/307758/510-five-ten-supermocc-slip-on>>>


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