Login with Facebook
 ADVANCED
Fastest Rope Retirement So Far
View Latest Posts in This Forum or All Forums
   Page 1 of 4.  1  2  3  4   Next>   Last>>
Follow replies to this topic? Notify me at the top of web site.
1

Email me.
 
 
By Cultivating Mass
Apr 21, 2013
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
I'm not trying to call a particular company out here, first of all. That said, some ropes really haven't lasted like I've expected, and I think it's worth posting up to see if others have had the same experience. It's possible manufacturers might check this out and do some thinking about beefing up sheaths or what have you and alleviate the need for constant rope replacement. Post up your "Holy Shit-rope is DONE, that fast?!?!?" scenarios...

My recent issue is with a Sterling Ion 9.5 70, it got up just over five routes at Red Rock before having to be retired. It took no falls and all raps were through burr-free chain or ring hangers, on fairly smooth sandstone-none of the pink and white grainy stuff. The ding is right by the middle mark and visibly and tactile-ly is verifiable as damaged in the core. Bummer for a rope with nice handling and light weight. I'm pretty sure my next skinny rope is going to be the Bluewater Dominator 9.4-I've owned a few of those, and they are burly as hell compared to the Ions and Infinites I've been climbing on.

Anyone else having the same issue? According to Desert Rock Sports, they've had to send back a few of these for crazy fast sheath wear as well.

FLAG
By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 21, 2013
...
"The ding is right by the middle mark and visibly and tactile-ly is verifiable as damaged in the core."



Think it would show in a photo?

FLAG
By jim.dangle
Apr 21, 2013
Is this is a bipattern rope? Because sometimes they can have a little swelling at the join.

Jim

FLAG
By Dana Bartlett
From CT
Apr 21, 2013
You haven't started fund raiser with a Paypal account for everyone to help buy you a new rope and deal with this tragedy? You're slipping.

FLAG
By Jon H
From Boulder
Apr 21, 2013
At the matching crux
My Sterling Nitro 9.8 is due to be retired pretty shortly. I think it's seen about 15 total climbing days in Seneca, New River Gorge, Gunks, Boulder Canyon, the Flatirons, and ice up in the Dacks... not very impressed.

FLAG
By bearbreeder
Apr 21, 2013
theres a reason why i buy cheap 100$ ropes for cragging ;)

FLAG
By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 21, 2013
...
^^^

LOL!

Ditto!

FLAG
By BrandonK
From Columbus, Ohio
Apr 21, 2013
I think thats just some bad luck Ive had my sterling 9.8 for 2.5 years used it probably 30-40 different trips and its still going (the red and new for most of that)

FLAG
 
By Dylan Weldin
From Austin, Texas
Apr 21, 2013
Summit of my first tower, the Rectory via Fine Jade
I would highly recommend a 9.8-10.2mm to replace your cord...

Check SuperTopo's rope review for durability considerations:
outdoorgearlab.com/Climbing-Ro...



I also take bearbreeder and Locker's advice to heart:

$32.96...
$32.96...

Steal of the century? Brand new 9.8, 60m for $32.96 after applied credits.

FLAG
By Ed Wright
Apr 21, 2013
Magic Ed
I've had two brand new ropes go bad on me. The first was a PMI that wore through the sheath after just one week of climbing in Northern Baja. Granted, the granite there was even sharper and more crystalline that JT but geez. When I contacted PMI they just said tough luck. Never bought another PMI product.

The other was a brand new Beal whose sheath burst after a short clean fall. The dealer who sold it to me replaced it immediately. I have owned several Beal's since then with no problems.

FLAG
By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Apr 22, 2013
Middle
bearbreeder wrote:
theres a reason why i buy cheap 100$ ropes for cragging ;)


Cause you're the cheapest person on the internet?

FLAG
By bearbreeder
Apr 22, 2013
Ray Pinpillage wrote:
Cause you're the cheapest person on the internet?


cause if you climb all the time youll actually wear out your ropes pretty fast ;)

virtually ropes last foh-ev-ahhhh =P

FLAG
By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 22, 2013
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.
Yeah, that blows. I had a rope get core shot once, but it was from letting people toprope with it over an edge. They found the sweet spot where it was super sharp and that was that.

FLAG
By notmyname
From Stony Brook, NY
Apr 23, 2013
recent petzl 9.8 rope lasted about 3 months of 2 day/week climbing

FLAG
By Ryan Hill
From Oakland, CA
Apr 23, 2013
I've been quite happy with my New England Glider 9.9. It isn't a skinny rope, but it has taken a beating over the last 16 months and looks brand new.

In truth, I did coreshot it earlier this month, but that was due to user error, I don't think any rope would have survived the edge it got pulled over when I fell. The 50 remaining meters are in great shape.

FLAG
By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
...
Dylan Weldin,

that DEAL that you got was a fuking BEAUTY!

Where the hell did you find that one?

Wow!

Superb find!

FLAG
 
By Rob Warden, Space Lizard
From Springdale Ut
Apr 23, 2013
blah
I have been digging my bluewater 9.4 but it was made in 2011 according to the sticker so it might be outside this current batch of Nylon. I have also had great experiences with my Beal rope 9.8

FLAG
By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Apr 23, 2013
Stoked...
IMO it's Sterling... I've blown through two 9.8 velocities on the first day using each of them, massive core shots. One rapping to clean, the other a hold broke 15 ft up and the hold landed on the rope and cut halfway though sheath and core.

FLAG
By John McNamee
Administrator
From Littleton, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Artist Tears P3
I've done the same with Mammut ropes. Core shots in the first day of use, usually rapping or jugging. Using edge protectors is a good idea.

FLAG
By Ryan-Nelson
From Fort Collins, CO
Apr 23, 2013
NCCC
I bought a sterling nano last year for a route in the desert that required double ropes for rap. I used my bw dominator 9.4 and the brand new sterling nano.

When I rapped to the ground, I noticed the flipping nano sheath had been cut to the core, and the dominator was pristine. I tried to contact sterling about it, but they just ignored me and put the fault on my end.

Never buying a sterling again.

FLAG
By jim.dangle
Apr 23, 2013
Sounds like maybe some of you guys should be using thicker ropes or even static ropes.

In my mind a rope that needs retiring in a few weeks or a few routes without having undergone any trauma is not simply a badly made rope but a dangerous and defective one. I would raise all holy hell with the manufacturer if that happened to me. The ropes clearly don't live up to usual standards.

I've seen petzl ropes that were horrible but other than that haven't had any problems with ropes (and I usually buy on price not brand).

Jim

FLAG
By Red
From Arizona
Apr 23, 2013
Cobra Kai
Have you tried contacting Sterling? Sometimes manufacturers will replaced when they've been worn abnormally fast.

Killing In The Name Of wrote:
I'm pretty sure my next skinny rope is going to be the Bluewater Dominator 9.4-


I've had my worst luck of all with Bluewater ropes. Blown sheaths ridiculously fast. My ropes were fatter than 9.4 though, I think 10.2. But awesome costumer service! They replaced mine.

I had a couple friends both have their Sterlings wears out super quick. They were both the same model (sorry I can't remember which one) I think 9.5 or 9.8 diameter.

FLAG
By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
...
Asking out of ignorance and curiosity.

Aren't all ropes pretty much made from the SAME materials? Why would one companies wear out faster than anothers?

Weave patterns different?




All the talk here about peoples ropes wearing out so quickly makes it appear as if there is something WRONG with the ropes.

But MANY details are not in the picture, and to be able to conclude that there is a rope problem or not doesn't seem reasonable.

FLAG
By Ben Brotelho
From Albany, NY
Apr 23, 2013
Epic free solo with a pack on
Mammut seems to make durable ropes. Petzl ones seem pretty sucky!

FLAG
 
By Cor
Apr 23, 2013
black nasty
Hard to tell with ropes... One time they last forever, the next time it is a month...

Speaking about Sterling though. Our 9.8 Velocity ropes held up great to a 20pitch trad line down on the rough granite of Patagonia, and sport wanking around Chalten. Besides being a bit dirty, they look new still.

FLAG
By teece303
From Highlands Ranch, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Aiding.
Five routes, no falls, and a damaged core?

Contact the manufacturer: that ain't right.

FLAG


Follow replies to this topic? Notify me at the top of web site.
1

Email me.
Page 1 of 4.  1  2  3  4   Next>   Last>>