By skeeter From Lakewood CA Oct 5, 2012
| I'm looking at the Metolius harness and wondering the benefit of 2 belay loops on a multi-pitch. Can someone explain what is going on in a multi-pitch climb that requires 2 belay loops (aside from aid climbing)? |  FLAG |
By mikek Oct 5, 2012
| To be truly safe, of course, you should wear two harnesses. |  FLAG |
By Bill Matlin Oct 5, 2012
| For aid climbing you could have two daisy chains and a fifi hook all coming of the center of the your harness. Two loops help keep things cleaner |  FLAG |
By skeeter From Lakewood CA Oct 5, 2012
| To be more specific I was referring to this phrase on the SAFE TECH ALL-AROUND CLIMBING HARNESS "Two belay/rappel loops make setting up for rapples and multi-pitch belays easier" |  FLAG |
By JKzxcv Oct 5, 2012
| Scott Gardiner wrote: To be more specific I was referring to this phrase on the SAFE TECH ALL-AROUND CLIMBING HARNESS "Two belay/rappel loops make setting up for rapples and multi-pitch belays easier" If your clipped in your anchor and getting ready to rap it can be annoying to have 2 or 3 carabiners on one belay loop interfering with eachother. Same thing with a hanging belay, it's bothersome to have multiple carabiners on one belay loop while your belaying off it. |  FLAG |
By Mark E Dixon From Boulder, CO Oct 5, 2012
| Two loops will work for rapples, but you really need three for efficient repels. |  FLAG |
By Tony B From Around Boulder, CO Oct 5, 2012
| The only real convelience I can think of it that you can tie in between them and still always have one on "the right side" to belay on no matter what. But I wouldn't want that. |  FLAG |
By Mark E Dixon From Boulder, CO Oct 5, 2012
| Seriously though, I like to use two seperate rappel devices on each rappel, to maintain a margin of safety. Like a figure 8 on one loop and an ATC on the other. If you use the same loop for both locking biners they can rub together, unfasten each other and release the rope. |  FLAG |
By ChristopherAust From Ohio Oct 5, 2012
| I like to use both for rappels when I put my atc extended on a sling and have a backup prussik underneath connected to the other loop. |  FLAG |
By skeeter From Lakewood CA Oct 5, 2012
| Thanks, my question has been answered, enjoyed the humor too. Cheers all |  FLAG |
By Tony B From Around Boulder, CO Oct 6, 2012
| Sam Lightner, Jr. wrote: Its so you can clip their hoop style ear rings in on both sides. Hoops??? Gauge dude... And you call yourself a hipster!?!?!?! |  FLAG |
By Jon Zucco From Denver, CO Oct 6, 2012
| real hipsters don't wear earrings. wait. what's a hipster? |  FLAG |
By Kevin Stricker From Evergreen, CO Oct 6, 2012
| Two loops are very convenient while rope soloing and following pitches on Jumars. In both situations you tend to have a backup knot clipped into your belay loop. The weight of which pulls the loop down. Now every time you reach up with a daisy(or Jumar) you are pulling up against that loop. Might not seem too bad, but after 1000+ cycles it adds up. With two loops one is delegated to your backup knot and the other is your attachment for everything else. That is at least how I use the big gun BD harness, most of my climbing is rope solo. |  FLAG |
By Scott McMahon From Boulder, CO Oct 6, 2012
| Jon Zucco wrote: real hipsters don't wear earrings. wait. what's a hipster? Why did the hipster burn the roof of his mouth? He ate his pizza before it was cool. |  FLAG |
By Jon Zucco From Denver, CO Oct 6, 2012
| that doesn't answer my question. |  FLAG |
By Jon Zucco From Denver, CO Oct 6, 2012
| I see. Thanks, the graphic explains it all. |  FLAG |
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