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By NickinCO
From colorado
Jul 23, 2012
after the hard stuff, into cruiser hands.
some of you guys are unbelievable..

As someone who has worked as the rescuer..... those guys are very happy when a call comes in, and all this taxpayer talk is complete bullshit. The money is going to get spent on something or it'll be lost regardless of callouts.

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By Eric Coffman
Jul 23, 2012
mountainlion
anywhere they want J Hazard as long as you let them know that
They're gonna Die!! Just make sure that they have a passion and are serious about climbing before just inviting them to big ass shit. Its common for people to come from their home crag where they kick ass get on new rock in a new area and realize they are in over their head.
Saw 3 hotshots try to onsight solo "the eye" in jtree together One dude, his buddy, and one of thier girlfriends. The guys all gung ho got started while the chick put on her shoes the guys were tall and the girl was a little short they got to the top right as she was about a third of the way up. She pulls the first real vertical move from wich it is a scary downclimb and the way up is totally vertical but the holds are somewhat hidden (for a short person like her). They kept telling her to just pull the move and she is trying to find the move for several minutes going up and coming back to the same spot. Then she began visibly shaking. I calmed her down and helped her downclimb (I'm no hero)but it is what it is dont underestimate the rock it is an unforgiving teacher.

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By Dow Williams
From Saint George, UT
Jul 23, 2012
Dow Williams, 2011
We live in a an era of entitlement, whether the obese wanting unlimited access to health care or middle aged, middle class white folks wanting unlimited access to rescue in the backcountry. It is all the same bs to me. Keep living the dream people, keep living the dream.

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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jul 23, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.
A gluttonous fat fuck sitting on their couch cramming shit down their gullets is not the same as someone that's outdoors and inexperienced that didn't do enough research. Gray area: The large portion in between the black, and the white.

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By Unassigned User
Jul 23, 2012
I dunno if it is a level of n00bness or just a lack of confidence in ones self(probably because of n00bness) that causes people to freak out in situations that they could easily think their way out of. Personally I am now so mortified of being flamed on on MP that I will never call for help. haha.

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By Dow Williams
From Saint George, UT
Jul 23, 2012
Dow Williams, 2011
peer pressure is a good thing....Sat I was chased by a grizzly, fell 40' with a huge pack trying to jump a 3' log...bruised ribs, broken hand, several gaping wounds...but finished climbing Mount King George yesterday then descended all the way out to worry about wounds...because I knew if I didn't, I would be called a pussy....I appreciate the pressure myself....I don't know...at 50 yrs of age, maybe I need a SPOT....maybe Rob and Killis will get me one for xmas?

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By Cultivating Mass
Jul 27, 2012
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
Hey, Dow, do you know my friend Chopper? He has a message for you....
:)

I'm thinking that if guideline #1 was enforced, none of us would be on here for long. It sucks to get stranded, and it's way fun to think you'll never be in the same position, but if you're bringing a celphone into the wilderness and know how to call 911, you're part of the system, protests to the contrary or nay. Leave the phone at home and maybe you can bitch.

K
PS we spotted you on Coltrane, chuffer!

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By Dow Williams
From Saint George, UT
Jul 28, 2012
Dow Williams, 2011
Chopper actually is my uncle, no joke dufus. No, I do not carry a cell phone climbing, Canadian Rockies or desert.

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By Cultivating Mass
Jul 28, 2012
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
I carry a celphone for emergency 976 calls, when the mood strikes...

If Chopper was your uncle, bob's yer uncle, canucklehead! Watched that crazy Eric Bana movie about Chopper, what a trip.

By spotted on Coltrane I meant replacing all the hardware, btw.

When we getting beers, stranger? Shirtless Rob and I have to sell our shirts for gas money and bring something stronger than 3.2 percent up to Santo Horhay or you coming this way eventually?

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By Phil S
From Bethlehem, NH
Aug 28, 2012
Party In My Mind. Endless Wall. <br />
Here is the link to their blog. I know both of those involved so I will not pass judgement...at least not publicly

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By Cultivating Mass
Aug 29, 2012
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
  • ***OOF!!!!*****

Reading that blog was PAINFUL. Hello, blissfully ignorant tourons draining the system. It's pretty obvious that these guys should've sat the night out on the ledge if they had to and learned a few lessons.

Instead, they burned enormous resources so they could move on to switching hotels and playing poker.

I'm going to the black corridor this week, clipping direct to the first bolt on a .7, and then calling for a rescue. Too much effort finishing on my own...

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By TomCaldwell
From Clemson, S.C.
Aug 29, 2012
Me on One Pitch Wonder at Whitesides.  Photo credits to Kyle Jones and his lucky anti-rain jacket.
I think the decision to call for help in the future for these two climbers will be all too easy. From 8am to midnight, they only reached the top of the tower! Climbing 5.9 chimney's with no experience and no means for bailing! They went out partying right afterwards. They must have been really dehydrated. This is all ridiculous. I stand by my original assessment, they needed a penalty of some sort.

Bail with one rope, leave gear, hike out, return with water and a second rope. Re-climb to high point bail without losing gear or continue to the top.

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By Dow Williams
From Saint George, UT
Aug 29, 2012
Dow Williams, 2011
Where are all their defenders now??? In their own words nonetheless...ignorant blokes to be sure. Yes, where is the f&*$#( bill????????? Should have been handed to them on the 2nd free heli ride...you can tell they got a real rush, like going to Disney World or something...took one rope because they are going to top out no worries???? I have done the route three times,gotten down before dark no worries except for a Feb outing.... contemplating even soloing the damn thing...and still use double ropes when climbing (roped up) such a long route. But no, they just needed a single because no worries even though they never climbed chimney before...seriously where do you find these people? How can anyone possibly defend against charging for rescue services after this statement on the issue? Also, lesson learned posted on the official review of the incident: 5 liters!!! (2 people) are not enough water for this route?...that is pretty funny. Just more mis-information. (Yeah I only drank 2.5 liters of water today on a north facing route...I might die)

We had two young folks die up here in Canmore this summer, fell while simul rapping. Official gov mountain safety specialist says in the media..."prussic rap backups would not have made a difference in this case because they were simul rapping"....mis information is abundant

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By Rob Fielding
From Las Vegas, NV
Aug 30, 2012
Third pillar of dana descent.
Dow,

That's pretty entertaining. A bunch of yuppies! Get your ass back down to St. George and lets climb. I "ditched the bitch," so i'm going to have some more free time.

cheers

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Aug 31, 2012
Colonel Mustard
Dow's bitter because he did the walk off to that choss heap three times! Hater! Um, I mean, hiker!

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By Cultivating Mass
Aug 31, 2012
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
Rob, she's gonna find that shit and make you pay :)

Let's have a session, I'm keeping the ball and chain but it'll be fun seeing her outclimb both you suckas! Yeeah boyee!

+1000 for walking off choss heaps. Simul rapping leads to cold sores and having to use special shampoos on your junk before you get your swagger on in your manpris.

This has been a public service announcement from Haters Against Simulrapping, a 501c3 organization. Your donations go towards posting more videos of people crashing and burning while simulrapping.

Stay safe.

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By crewdoglm
From TAFB CA
May 23, 2014
78 degrees north at 40,000 bearing about 220. Five hour sunset.
I was just re-reading this thread. That rescue still takes the title in my book for most staggering thing ever. Those goobers should be publicly horse-whipped for lack of everything real climbing embodies - self-reliance first of all. As a career USAF flier I would also remind you gung-ho SAR types out there: NOTHING we do is routine and all it takes is one cannon plug or titanium bolt or hydraulic actuator to fail and we're having funerals. That is even more true for helicopters. (Did you you know that multiple coordinated hydraulic actuators are changing the rotor pitch angle EVERY single time that blade goes around - just to keep the thing straight and level?) How would like to live with knowing that a helicopter crew died rescuing your noob ass because you were thirsty and couldn't man-up? I don't climb hard anymore but when I did, cell phones were not part of the equation. Period. We did our research and took self-rescue very seriously. I spent some tough nights on the back of the learning curve. Oh well...I'll stop. You guys be careful out there.

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By criccia
May 23, 2014
I would have had good ol' "Uncle Pat" shimmy up there and lead the way out! Whenever you're in a jam on Epinephrine, just toot on the ol' grass flute and he come's a climbin'!

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