Greg@Supertopo is just a troll causing trouble. He's been making the same comments about MP on Supertopo threads

So, I wasn't going to say anything about this, but two weekends ago I was out in Eldo with my Soloist, and some douchebag stole one of my three anchors while I was climbing. I had a top rope set up on Blind Faith, and had two cams, and a nut all equalized as an anchor. I did not leave my gear unattended.

I ran some laps without going to the very top where my anchors were placed. When I climbed to the very top to clean my gear: a nut, a double length Specter cord, and two locking biners were gone. I was so blown away by it that I wasn't even sure what to think.

Because this was not a case of "abandoned" gear, and because I was actively climbing on my system the whole time it was up, except for a breather or two, I was shocked that anyone would mess with it while I was climbing. Fortunately the two cams that were not stolen were bomber, so it didn't particularly endanger me. But what a rotten thing to do.

I still don't know what to think, but the more I do the more pissed it makes me. Even though the situation is totally different than the rope that is the subject of this thread, I think anyone trying to justify stealing as a way to enforce "local" ethics has their head up their a$$.

Greg reminds me of the kid growing up who "was always going to go tell his mommy".

Greg...you sound like such a flame! I will come to SuperTopo just to rag on you.

We don't know the person who took the rope ever read this thread or the Supertopo thread. On the Taco a guy just described how someone took the very anchor he was rope soloing on and removed pieces of it and stole them! Do you think this thief too was trying to enforce leave no trace ethics?

It's just presumptuous to think the rope was stolen to make a point about ethics. It is very likely to be simple theft.

yeah, let's beat off somebody! I mean, beat up somebody.

Lameness continuing unabated.

Does putting in hundreds if not thousands of hours for the ASCA make me less of a toolbox? No, it just cuts into my playing with dolls time.

No word on the rope yet, huh? Part of me thinks it would be cool to see the guy get his gear back. Another part feels like that situation's like returning the rest of the rufies when you let a rapist out of county.

Does anyone ever learn from getting their gear jacked? I'm thinking it's pretty unlikely. People tell Ellenor she's annoying, retarded, and unwanted hundreds of times a month, and that seems to be not penetrating the thick skull one bit. Whaddaya say, EDJ? Never, never again? Or, damn, that's annoying but fuck everyone and their rules, I'm right back on it?

Admit it, you love hearing yourself talk. I like you better when you're posting pictures of half naked women.

Quittin' time, can't wait to pick this back up tomorrow... Goodnight cupcake

When I'm not perfecting Magnum, I'm a philosphizer by trade.

Just cause I have a negative view of humanity is no reason to be bummed out yourself. Climbers are good people. Not gossipy, effeminite bitches who re-post from site to site, not the kind of assholes that steal ropes off of people's projects, not the kind of schmucks that troll the living hell out of anything and everything they can from their unsuited for the illiterate iPhones.

My buddy, who's well known around here as a poser, negative nancy, and general dick (even I think this, and I like the guy; ish) says
"Climbers aren't good people. They're usually overpriveleged, under-responsible shitheads just trying to take everyone around them for anything they can squeeze out of them. Now, firefighters? You got at least a decent chance that some guy willing to run into a burning building for a total stranger's benefit might MAYBE be a decent person. But even then you're talking about just better than 50% odds. Most climbers, maybe 90%, are people I wouldn't drink a beer with if they were buying."

Words of wisdom. Course, my paramedic buddy thinks most firemen are shitheads, too, so maybe we should get back to your regularly scheduled rope-theft argument, and I can talk to myself, with my mellifluous vocal tones, and whatnot. And you can google Eva pictures or whatever it is that you do when you're not calling me cupcake. Which is hot.

you started drinking early today huh

Howdy. That's my brother you are all talking about. He loves Eldo, is a great steward of the place, has revisited his position and changed it in the course of the past day, and is genuinely upset at the fluster this has caused. Perhaps it is time to climb rather than posture, enjoy rather than accuse, and celebrate the fact that climbing--for some--remains an activity of inspiration and adventure.

All best,

Greg J

Do we actually know if the rope was stolen by somebody who just saw an expensive unattended piece of gear or whether it was taken down as a political statement?

In either case, I think it should be given back, but it's a lot more likely if taking it was a statement.

I think Brad deserves his gear back too, even if I still carry the emotional scars inflicted by gang-topropers at the Gunks.

When I see some of these posts justifying theft as a means to disagree with someone, it makes me a little sad. Sure, theft has always occurred in our community, but to think some of us believe it is justifiable in any case is surprising to me. Maybe I'm naive.

Greg, I saw that party, because they rappeled off the Bastille right next to me while I was on Blind Faith. I thought it odd. I don't know if they stole my gear or not, but they were my best guess also.

Mark Dixon, you made one of the comments that surprises me. I don't gang tope-rope anything. Typically, when I am out with the Soloist I get to Eldo extremely early, set my rope up on something accessible, and try not to hog the route too much. I usually finish early, and have been doing this off and on for almost 25 years in Eldo. I've never been told that I was out of line for this practice. When you insinuate that somehow I deserved to have any anchor that I was actively using removed and stolen is pretty shocking. Oh well, I guess our community is changing.

Suggesting that stashers are learning disabled sounds exactly like the killis you used to know, before you wore out your welcome.

Feel free to not get me started on you, I think the uneasy truce is as good as it's getting between you and me.

Brad, things have and will continue to change, that's a fact. Adjusting to change is one of the major secondary challenges in life, after food, shelter, and not getting run over by a bus (or thrown under it by former "friends").

I'm glad you got my joke, Nick. Ballbusting intentional, but no harm meant. And drinking doesn't get the words flowing, it tends to mellow me out to the point of sleep, hence all of the forthcoming donations to my beer fund.

Jake Jonesin', the voice of reason AGAIN. Damn you and your thinking and math skills! Hope NC was sick, send me some details, I've been coughing up 50 shades of phlegm getting over the flu, be fun to hear about your 50 shades of gray rock. Or just have you read 50 Shades of MILF to me or whatever is on the large print bestseller list these days.