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DWS Avalanche Lake Dacks?

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Tom Sherman · · Austin, TX · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 433

Can you deepwater solo at Avalanche Lake in the Adirondacks. We're thinking of a leisure trip back in there, camping on the lakes, floating in my packraft, doing the trap dike...

Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960

Looks like such a fun area... hoping someone responds to you with some beta ;-)

Justin Sanford · · Broadalbin, New York · Joined May 2009 · Points: 555

Also very interested in this. I'd try to reach out to Jim Lawyer, he is active on Mountain Project and has a wealth of Adirondack cragging knowledge...

Jim Lawyer · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 6,116

If you're looking for overhanging rock with a deep-water landing, then Avalanche Pass is not the place. Sure, there's rock that rises directly above the water, but it's mostly off vertical, and in many places, there are submerged rocks that you'll hit. In my opinion, unplanned falls into the water would be risky.

The Adirondacks just doesn't have any rock that overhangs deep water. But if that's what you're into, check out Barn Rock and the Palisades on Lake Champlain, Bluff Island on Lower Saranac Lake, and Pulpit Rock on Lake Placid.

Robert Hall · · North Conway, NH · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 27,827

Yup! I "second" Jim's recommendation. Avalanche Pass Lake is no place to try deep water soloing! (Plus, most of the High Peaks lakes are still free of invasive species that are taking over many of the lower lakes, like Lake George, and you wouldn't want to be the person to introduce them!...via whatever 'float device' you're using) Not to mention the bugs! Do you really want to be "DEET-Less-in-Seatle" in the Adks in the summer?!
If you're in the area, Bluff Island has some nice water-soloing; and even a couple of routes that need a rope, since they don't "end" by dropping off into the water. Try "Dry Rain" to the left, 35-40 ft, 5.7-5.8 take a short rope and a few small nuts only.

Justin Sanford · · Broadalbin, New York · Joined May 2009 · Points: 555

All good recommendations...the Palisades look very impressive

Palisades

Barn Rock

Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960

Those places look great! Lake Champlain huh? Jim, what about Anthony's Nose on lake george ( binged.it/1l67GfQ)?

Justin Sanford · · Broadalbin, New York · Joined May 2009 · Points: 555

resurrecting an older post about the deep water potential on Lake Champlain...this also brings to my attention that Jeremy Wade from the show "River Monsters" did a special episode up on Lake Champlain featuring the invasive Sea Lamprey's and apparent attacks on swimmers. Incidents seemed few and far between but probably worth noting for any interested parties.

mountainproject.com/v/any-b…

Sea Lamprey

Tom Sherman · · Austin, TX · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 433

Thanks for ruining swimming for the rest of my life Justin...

Sea Lamprey

PeterW Whitmore · · Dryden, NY · Joined Mar 2010 · Points: 50

I've done the traversing first pitch of Walk the Plank at Rogers Rock ropeless (and about 30' up the second pitch). It is steep slab that continues into the lake for 50' according to the depth finder on our boat. Not a dws destination, but fun if you are there doing other stuff.

Tom Sherman · · Austin, TX · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 433

Was mainly interested in Avalanche Lake because we have interest in staying in there for a few days. If I do go i'll bring my freedive fins & mask and try to bring back some beta.

& of course... will take a jackass photo of me in snorkel/fins/mask on trap dike

eddysamson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,117

I've been doing DWS (okay its really deep water bouldering at this spot) on the VT side of Champlain for the past 5 years and have been swimming in the lake in general for the past 6 and have never seen or heard anything about those lampreys.

My spot is somewhat known, called Lone Rock Point. Its just one 15-20ft (depends on water levels) tall boulder with a flat top. Has only one face thats safe with deep water under it, whole boulder probably has potential but I've never strayed away from the deep side unless I am doing the easy V0- face.

Has a really nice V4ish line and an equally nice V5/6 alternate line on the safe side.

You can access it by boat or by the Diocese-owned hiking trails off North Beach in Burlington, VT.

Jim Lawyer · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 6,116
Morgan Patterson wrote:Those places look great! Lake Champlain huh? Jim, what about Anthony's Nose on lake george ( binged.it/1l67GfQ)?
Anthony's Nose is owned by the Nature Conservancy which doesn't allow climbing at this location. There are some reported routes here. I have no idea about DWS.
Jim Lawyer · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 6,116
Justin Sanford wrote:All good recommendations...the Palisades look very impressive
For safe DWS, I'd like the rock to overhang the water so I don't scrape and bounce by way into the water. Barn Rock isn't steep enough for my tastes. The Palisades might have a couple spots that qualify. Jut -- didn't you check that out a couple years ago?
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960
Jim Lawyer wrote: Anthony's Nose is owned by the Nature Conservancy which doesn't allow climbing at this location. There are some reported routes here. I have no idea about DWS.
Ugh... TNC.
Andy Elliott · · Conway NH · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 40

My brother went to uvm and said people cliff jump here all the time in burlington. binged.it/1l7gmT9

anybody ever climb there? youtube red rock cliff jumping if you want videos.

also on the subject of dws. anybody ever do it here also in vermont? youtube.com/watch?v=7AwGXZN…

marty funkhouser · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2007 · Points: 20
Tom Sherman wrote:Was mainly interested in Avalanche Lake because we have interest in staying in there for a few days. If I do go i'll bring my freedive fins & mask and try to bring back some beta. & of course... will take a jackass photo of me in snorkel/fins/mask on trap dike
The whole 'lake' is like 2-4' deep if I remember.
Morgan Patterson · · NH · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 8,960

Then technically it's a pond... ;-P don't lakes have to be deeper then 100ft?

eddysamson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,117
Morgan Patterson wrote:Then technically it's a pond... ;-P don't lakes have to be deeper then 100ft?
Definitely not 100 that is way too much. I grew up on a mile long lake that was only like 70ft deep at its deepest and that was only in a certain strip in the middle, the rest of the areas that you would consider 'deep' (away from the shore) were like 30-50 ft
eddysamson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 2,117
andyelliott wrote:My brother went to uvm and said people cliff jump here all the time in burlington. binged.it/1l7gmT9 anybody ever climb there? youtube red rock cliff jumping if you want videos. also on the subject of dws. anybody ever do it here also in vermont? youtube.com/watch?v=7AwGXZN…
For Burlington area DWS check out my post above about Lone Rock Point. I've never tried red rocks climbing, I've heard its decent but its more of a jumping spot. I've never heard anyone excited about climbing there and I've lived and climbed in Burlington for the last 5-6 years.
Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
Jim Lawyer wrote: Anthony's Nose is owned by the Nature Conservancy which doesn't allow climbing at this location. There are some reported routes here. I have no idea about DWS.

What about Diver's rock? I wonder if you could climb up to the ledge everyone jumps from?
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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