Dutch Maiden 

Does anyone know if a hold has been knocked off anywhere on the route? The space between the fist and second bolt is incredibly bare for a the grade, I climb typically climb 5.10 and I couldn't make it up to the second bolt without a few nasty whippers.

But, it could just be that the climbing isn't suited to my personal strengths on the rock, but man, it was stiff for the grade.

I wondered if a hold hadnt broken between the third bolt and the anchors (or maybe it was 2nd to third bolt). Anybody have beta on the moves to the anchors? Also wasnt sure which way to go...Left or Right to get to the final pocket, as the face straight up, was straight up bald. Didnt think the route wasnt very natural based on the bolt placement. I too regularly climb 10s and this was no 10a. 10b minimum. Couple of fun moves at the bottom, but dont see why this is a highly rated route... at least under the current conditions.

Gotta smear boys!

Did this one in June, lots of fun! The crux for me was the last move to the chains, but I didn't see the jug hold above the anchors either. There is a cool expansion move on crimpy holds between the second and third bolts (or 3rd and 4th?). Either way, cool route.

I was told that a hold broke off near the top making this climb around the 10b range. Comparing Dutch Maiden to Mammplitude (just right of it) the ratings should be reversed in my opinion.

Rothman - I always go right at the last bolt to reach the anchors.

I agree with Marlin the route directly to the right while thin at the bottom gets progressively better holds to the top while Dutch Maiden at the top while fighting the pump gets extremely thin. Dutch Maiden 10b Mammplitude 10a?