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YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a

Type:  Trad, 10 pitches, 1000', Grade III
Consensus:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
FA: Chris Greyell, Duane Constantino (1979)
Season: May-October
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Submitted By: Matt Perkins on Aug 12, 2007

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Cool snow formation at the base.


Dreamer is the most famous route in Darrington, and with varied climbing at a moderate grade it is deservedly so. The route is located on a remote crag reached via a poorly maintained access route, it is ten pitches long, and the descent via rappel provides plenty of opportunities to get a rope stuck. It includes some interesting and challenging crack climbing in addition to several spectacular pitches of knobby face climbing, in a pristine mountain setting with magnificant views.

Description and Topo:


To reach Green Giant Buttress, drive five or six miles up the Clear Creek logging road from the Mountain Loop Highway southeast of Darrington, and take the right (main) fork. In less than another mile, pass the parking area for the Eightmile Creek trail, and continue on as the road deteriorates (the rocky roadbed is passable by normal cars, but some drivers will be squeamish about their paint job as the alders constantly sweep the side of your car). In another mile and a half or so, there is barely room to turn around and the road takes a distinct turn for the worse. The road ends entirely a few hundred yards beyond this point.

The route to Green Giant Buttress starts out on an old extension of this logging road, but after a half mile drops to an older mining road. After this ends, continue on to cross a side fork of Copper Creek, bear slightly leftward and follow the main fork to a series of three waterfalls. A tiny gully heads up and right into the maples and opens up to a larger gully that is followed all the way to the base of the rock. Scramble up and right to the traditional staging area, which is a few hundred feet below steeper rock above. There is no real landmark here, but there are a few small cedars standing straight up whereas above this point everything is more bushy looking.


The route requires gear to three inches. On one pitch, the "blue crack" pitch, one can save (hoard) their 1" piece lower down, but an extra piece in the 2 1/2 " - 3" range is helpful.

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Looking down the awesome blue crack on pitch 6.
Looking down the awesome blue crack on pitch 6.
Dreamer - looking down from the top of the Blue Cr...
Dreamer - looking down from the top of the Blue Cr...
Pitch 5 - the climbing steepens here.
Pitch 5 - the climbing steepens here.
Lower Apron- Somewhere around pitch 1.
Lower Apron- Somewhere around pitch 1.
More knob climbing on pitch 4.
More knob climbing on pitch 4.
Green Giant Buttress
Green Giant Buttress
Knob climbing on pitch 3.
Knob climbing on pitch 3.
Andy Fitz on Dreamer
Andy Fitz on Dreamer

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By Jeff Hebert
From: Seattle, WA
May 12, 2013

If you find yourself off-route or confused near the start, consult this:
By Alex Mitchell
From: Cincinnati, OH
Jul 5, 2013

Don't get sandbagged by the approach! We were not moving super fast but even so it took us almost 2 hours! We did the first 6 pitches. Lots of great slightly runout slab climbing on chicken heads. More of a head game than actually hard climbing. For what we did of it was super sweet!
By Anna C.
From: VT
Jun 21, 2014

Did this recently as my first climb in WA state. A few notes:
1. Park at 6.2 miles on the road at a clearing - it gets bad quick after that.
2. On the approach, look very carefully for the gully up to the climb - if you find yourself bushwhacking steeply through maple and devil's club, you're off track. It's a rocky tunnel through the greenery, after the first stand of evergreens on the right of the stream.
3. Definitely print the topo if you don't want to get off route. Or accept that you'll have an adventure :).

Worth the trek!!!
By John Van Sickle
From: Seattle, WA
Aug 24, 2014

In the blue crack I could have used a second #2 (gold) camalot.
South-ish facing. Sunny, 80 and an occasional breeze for our climb. Would not want to do it on an 85 day with still air.
By Johan
From: Seattle, WA
Apr 27, 2015

We approached yesterday April 26 2015 and found the valley covered with patches of recent snow and much of the rock soaked from a wet week. There were waterfalls across the Green Giant Buttress, and slab-climbing was clearly a non-starter. We had sort of anticipated this (there were snow patched alongside the road in), but we were hoping to give the first few pitches a try. We had not accounted for how treacherous the final bit of the approach ("3rd class" slab) would be with all the wet rock. You definitely want to climb this in dry conditions. The approach to reach the toe of the Green Giant Buttress itself is manageable.
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