By Fat Dad
From Los Angeles, CA
Dec 14, 2012
| Looks fake to me. I can't imagine a quickdraw piercing a hand that much by just grabbing it. Let's put it this way, I once slipped with my index finger through a fixed pin. ,I got a minor break but it didn't even break the skin. How's a blunt draw going to do that much damage? | 
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By Sean H
From San Francisco, CA
Dec 14, 2012
| Hamilton Kibbe wrote: If he dies of blood loss do we upgrade the route to A5?
Hahaha. Man. That made my day. Thanks. |
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By 20 kN
From Hawaii
Dec 14, 2012
| Hamilton Kibbe wrote: If he dies of blood loss do we upgrade the route to A5?
A6+ actually. |
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By mmcfarland
From Millcreek ,Ut
Dec 14, 2012
| Brutal! I love how you can just barely make out the ring wedged up under the finger degloving. BLS/ALS crews carry a ring cutter for these situations. Just getting it cut can be as traumatic as the actual injury though. |
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By TWK
Dec 14, 2012
| Fat Dad wrote: Looks fake to me. I can't imagine a quickdraw piercing a hand that much by just grabbing it.
Apparently he didn't "just grab" it; rather, he grabbed it and then fell on it. And who knows? He probably was hanging by his impaled hand for a while after the fall. Imagine the consequences of the physics involved if one grabbed a quickdraw on a long difficult roof, and fell, with feet on nothing but air and your other hand out of reach of anything but the same.
Like a fish on a line. |
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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Dec 14, 2012
| Its a photoshopped image. As a designer - Its ok but Open it in PS and you'll see.... |
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By Hamilton Kibbe
From Boston, MA
Dec 14, 2012
| 20 kN wrote: A6+ actually.
I thought A5 implied death?
A6 would be like... if you have to sling a bald eagle or something for pro, and a fall results in death of leader, belayer AND bald eagle |
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By Fat Dad
From Los Angeles, CA
Dec 14, 2012
| TWK wrote: Apparently he didn't "just grab" it; rather, he grabbed it and then fell on it.
No, I get that. Even if he grabbed the draw/biner in a weird way, I just don't see the force generated by the fall sliding his hand off a rather blunt point rather than driving the object into his hand, or how he was able to hang on after it penetrated his hand. If he fell hard enough for it to pierce his hand, I don't see how the force of the fall would not have had also torn his hand free after being pierced.
I'm not saying it's couldn't possible happen. Just skeptical; still am. |
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By Ian Cavanaugh
Dec 14, 2012
| had this happen to a friend is Bozeman a couple of years ago. He fell on a route, as he went past the draw it caught his had just below the wrist. The biner went into his hand and caught his fall. since the rope was going through the biner that was now embedded in his hand, he was force to rip it out in order to be lowered. it was like a murder scene, blood was everywhere. Luck for my friend there was no nerve or tendon damage. he was fine after a couple of months. Whether or not that image is fake, that stuff does happen, and its not pretty when it does! |
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