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By Dana Bartlett
From CT
Dec 8, 2012

I may not agree with where or to whom someone decides to donate money, but the impulse to be charitable should not be discouraged or disparaged. If you decide to give to John Long - or to anyone - good for you.

Dana Bartlett


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By tharlow
Dec 8, 2012

Wow,
good reminder that what we do is dangerous, even in the "controlled environment" of the gym. Best wishes to John on a quick recovery. At the end of the day, doesnt matter to me how hard he climbs, or the fact that I, like a lot of people on this site, have benefited from his knowledge and experience. What matters is basic human decency. A member of our community, a fellow human being is hurt and could use some help. We have all needed a helping hand at some point in our lives. So if you can and want to chip in and help John, good on ya. If not, thats fine too, free will, I just dont want to hear about it either way. As far as all of the money he has made from his books, most authors net around 6% per book sold. So I dont think John realized financial wealth from his book sales, and I doubt that was his purpose in the first place.


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By Adam Winters
Administrator
From the Shire
Dec 8, 2012
Red-tail Hawk, Buttermilks

camhead wrote:
Kevin, Ted, it's really simple: a standout member of our community got hurt, and could use some help. That's it. There is no argument, you either throw down some cash, wish him well, or shut the fuck up.


yup. unbelievable.


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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Dec 8, 2012
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.

I didn't know any climbers, and nil about technical rock climbing when I decided to take up the sport- I found John Long's books very informative, and user friendly, and it gave me the confidence I desperately needed at the time to become a climber. I really appreciate the 110%, and then some that he has put into the climbing community. His shared wealth of knowledge, and expertise is the gift that keeps on giving in the climbing world. I was more than happy to contribute something back to such an outstanding member of our climbing community, whom I have benefited so much from over the years, and for many years to come. Hope he gets well soon, and gets the best care he can.


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By Adam Stackhouse
Administrator
Dec 8, 2012
Courtright Reservoir, September 2013

Nice post Gigette


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By Adam Stackhouse
Administrator
Dec 8, 2012
Courtright Reservoir, September 2013

From Gordofest, 2012

Blitzo, myself and John Long
Blitzo, myself and John Long


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By Woodchuck ATC
Dec 8, 2012
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008

Always a good laugh in his instructional videos from the 90's.


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By Brian in SLC
Dec 8, 2012
Climbing in Smuggler's Notch

Also from Toddfest...

John at the Toddfest 2012 in Joshua Tree
John at the Toddfest 2012 in Joshua Tree


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By kevin murphy
From Lafayette, Colorado
Dec 8, 2012
road

I will redact my previous comments. To each their own. This is not the forum to discuss issues deeper than #5 Camelots,or your next road trip van. I'll shut the fuck up now.
By the way he has raised close to $2500. Smart MOFO.


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By clay meier
Dec 8, 2012
Thats Me

camhead wrote:
Kevin, Ted, it's really simple: a standout member of our community got hurt, and could use some help. That's it. There is no argument, you either throw down some cash, wish him well, or shut the fuck up.


well said


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By Superclimber
Dec 8, 2012

Ugh, very unfortunate. But this or worse can happen to any of us. I too have a couple of his books on my shelf. There's no doubt he has had a very influential impact on climbing. God's Speed Dude.


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By matt davies
Dec 9, 2012

Jeremy Monahan wrote:
Welp, Matt Davies nailed it, if you can get past the big words. Three cheers for John Long, and for a speedy recovery!

B good 2 people who R good 4 things U like.
EDIT: :)


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

The person that started the Chipin is now in contact with me. Sorry if this raised a lot of alarms.


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By kevin murphy
From Lafayette, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012
road

Thanks John for posting. I was skeptical of the Chipin when I first saw the post. Theres a sucker born every minute, just look at this site. But obviously you are a stand up dude, and I appreciate honesty in our small community. Loved your books growing up. Still think you are one of the best adventure writers out there. I hope you heal quick, and if a legit fundraiser is presented, I'm happy to Chipin.


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By todd w
Dec 9, 2012

bummer, hope you get better soon John. Love your books.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

There will be an actual fundraiser going on with real people doing it in person at some point.

The Chipin fundraiser is looking legitimate now. More to follow on that.


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By Dirty Gri Gri, or is it GiGi?
From Vegas
Dec 9, 2012
Growing a winter coat in Red Rock Canyon- December 2013.

Hopefully the folks who started the chipin will do the right thing with the donations received. I'm not one to donate blindly for a cause, but do tend to be more trusting with folks within our small climbing community, or whom I believe to be part of our tribe. I've never been done wrong by anyone in our climbing community, and have had nothing but great experiences with climbers, and climbing related organizations, so with that I took a gamble, and was quick on the trigger to donate. Call us suckers who donated to Krista for her lap dances, and road trips in Nigeria but that's life in the fast lane. We win some, and lose some. At this point I'm not going to stress over a donation/bet made that doesn't break my bank.

With that being said, a more transparent fundraiser does make more sense, and would generate more interest for the cause.


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By Gunkiemike
Dec 9, 2012

This is most disturbing. Should I cancel my Paypal transaction?

The PP recipient is kgoodsitt@msn.com (name given as Krista Goodsitt, which does indeed conjure up images of a lap dance).

I sent Ms Goodsitt the following email:
As you may be aware there is some serious skepticism growing online re. your Chipin solicitation. Please respond to this with more information about yourself and evidence that you are indeed affiliated with JL in some way. A public statement by him to that effect would be great; to date he has denied this effort 100%. Else I will retract my contribution.


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

Hold off on that cancellation, Mike. Krista just contacted me.

"Krista Goodsitt

Hey there, John is aware of it he just didn't realize exactly what it was and how big it was going to get. I'm having dinner w him tonight and am going to explain it to him and see what he wants done with it. I will close it depending on his wishes. All the money donated is going straight to Largo, we decided to start it when we realized he is going to be in the hospital over a week.

His daughters also got emergency flights from out of the country, so the fund was set up to help with odds and ends and co pays and such. I have no problem posting all of the donated funds and the final check to John right now the funds are in a pay pal account that I set up. I totally understand that lots of chipins are fraudulent so any questions people have I will gladly answer. I hope this helps explain it.

Did I answer all your questions?"

I've been talking with Krista on and off all day now. I'm pretty convinced it's all good. We talked about better ways to present this sort of fundraiser in the future to prevent misunderstandings, too.


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By CJC
Dec 9, 2012

all the moderating/post deletion is making this thread pretty hard to follow

wtfever go ahead and censor this post too


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By kevin murphy
From Lafayette, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012
road

This whole thing sounds like a bad email from out of the country, asking for a checking account to send me money. Stitch, stop passing on the information. Largo said to STOP all transactions, let it go. Lap dance for dinner? And his initial response (John Long's) was deleted, fishy shit going on here.

"Just because your paranoid, doesn't mean their not watching you."

Kurt Cobain


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By MJMobes
From The land of steady habits
Dec 9, 2012
modern man

can we just get back to can or can they not sew penis' on to people? apparently this was wrong to discuss and was deleted yesterday as everyone was sending their $$$ to a scammer so the conversation was not finished.

my god people, ever read any J.L. fiction? lighten the F up!


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By kevin murphy
From Lafayette, Colorado
Dec 9, 2012
road

Stitch, did I just read Krista Goodsitt. Holyshit, you can't make this shit up. I'm afraid to google, I'll have porn all over my computer, maybe Camhead can help. This is hilarious. Is Stitch a real person, or a troll?


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By Greg Miller
From boulder, co
Dec 9, 2012

this is as funny as that one time, a couple years ago, Stich was talking shit about a well known Colorado climbing shop in one forum, agreeing with a sour customer, THEN sometime after proclaiming it was one of his favorite shops when someone asked what the best climbing shop in CO was... weird!!!


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By camhead
From Vandalia, Appalachia
Dec 9, 2012
You stay away from mah pig!

kevin murphy wrote:
"Just because your paranoid, doesn't mean their not watching you." Kurt Cobain


Two common spelling errors in one sentence. Impressive. Maybe you should go repelling for greater affect.


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