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Descent from Keiners

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Gabe B. · · Madison, WI · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 86

Hey,

Our group is thinking of doing Keiner's route in about a week. Our plan is to bivy below the route and then head for the summit. We would like to stash our bivy gear, so is there a descent that will spit us out back down near Chasm Lake to grab our stuff? Also, what are the potential bail options from on the route? I have heard that from the top of lamb's slide, if you need to bail, to take the loft instead of rapping. Is that accurate?

Any beta would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Gabe

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

FYI Marmots will eat everything you own.

Leaving yet?? Chomp chomp.

Gabe B. · · Madison, WI · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 86

Scott,

You recommend NOT stashing our stuff and instead climb the route with it/ dont bivy at all?

Gabe

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425
Gabriel Bromley wrote:Scott, You recommend NOT stashing our stuff and instead climb the route with it/ dont bivy at all? Gabe
Well you CAN stash your stuff, but be prepared to do some work to protect it. They'll eat boots, straps, tents, whatever. On the backside of long's (spearhead) we flipped our packs upside down and hung them over small cliffs which seemed to help. On the way up we watched marmot ravage another groups bivy.

Sometimes you have to indirectly throw rocks at the f*ckers while you are sitting next to your pack. They don't care.
Greg Miller · · Westminster, CO · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 30

From the summit, if you head down the Cables (North Face) Route, the bottom of the rap puts you at Chasm View, which IIRC has a good rappel back down to the base, which is roughly where your gear would be stashed. Anyone else care to confirm?

Xam · · Boulder, Co · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 76

If you need to get to Chasm Lake from the North Face rappels, generally one takes the Camel gully decent or the 'sidewalk' decent referred to at Longs Peak via Kor's Door -> Finish Kiener's Route beta questions. If you decide to rap from Chasm View, I believe you are looking at 6 double rope raps (3 on chasm view and 3 on the crack of delight IIRC) and a long traverse across Broadway.

Edit: I looked it up...it is 3 double rope raps and a single rope rap from the crack of delight.

Brian · · North Kingstown, RI · Joined Sep 2001 · Points: 804
Xam wrote:If you need to get to Chasm Lake from the North Face rappels, generally one takes the Camel gully decent or the 'sidewalk' decent referred to at Longs Peak via Kor's Door -> Finish Kiener's Route beta questions.
This is the way to go. I did the Camel gully descent back to my bivy gear at night and it wasn't too bad. I stashed my pack under a boulder and had no problems with critters. I didn't have any food in the pack.
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