not sure on the fa on this one .....perhaps the infamous Ralph schimdt and Sal sepson
By Tradoholic Jun 29, 2009 rating: 5.10+6b+21VII+20E3 5b R
I got a directional in a few feet up and then not another piece until the rest spot. I gave it "R" because of the crimpy solo to the rest. Good moves all the way with another distinct crux at the top protected with some ball nuts. Probably not climbed enough. "Out There" (5.9+) to the right of this is also very good and often over-looked.
By Michael Sullivan From: Madison, WI Nov 4, 2011 rating: 5.10c/d6b+21VII+21E3 5b PG13
Does anyone know where the proper location of this route's finish is? Does it finish to the right of Curving Crack at the same ledge? Or does it finish to the right and above Curving Crack as Trad Ninja can be seen doing in photos of the route? Could these two variations perhaps explain the difference in suggested rating from 10c to 10+?
By Tradoholic Nov 5, 2011 rating: 5.10+6b+21VII+20E3 5b R
I would say more is better, so up and right higher is proper.
My climbing partner and I got into a heated discussion on what is technically "off" on this line and I wanted to ask the Lake community their opinion. I know you cannot use any part of Curving, but is it acceptable to use any of the rounded corners that eventually turn into Curving on the climbers left below the first rest?
Being a route purest I said no and that it was technically was not park of the "face," but they said it was acceptable... any thoughts?
Well... I know for sure that using those holds off to the left make the grade easier... So call it climbing Deceptive with maybe an easier 5.10 grade? Do and climb whatever you like... there are no real rules regarding that particular aspect of rock climbing. But then later when your recounting (or bragging... talking smack) just be honest and admit you reached off to the left when doing the entrance moves of "Deceptive".