Dazed and Confused 

another funroute. seems a little harder than 5.9

Edgy first pitch and run-out second to a wonderful summit.

Unfortunately a lot of people seem to rap off after the first pitch, evidenced by a large number of slings which I once removed from the bolt anchor at pitch 1.

A worthy, albeit harder, companion to Mental Physics.

Position, character, location.

As previously mentioned it is possible and even recommended to do this route in one pitch. There should not be any slings left behind as the anchors are all metal hardware.

I've climbed this route a couple of times. It's a wonderful route; however, I'd rate it 10a.

I'd give the route a 5.10a. I remember it being quite a bit harder than the advertised 5.9. Maybe it is just the space between bolts. I think I only climbed the first pitch and came down.

I think the reason this climb feels harder than 5.9 to some is that (in my opinion) the difficulty stays pretty consistant in the first pitch right off the deck with potential for some nice size falls that someone climbing at or near their current limit will certainly take seriously. Becasue the moves are all there and solid, this factor should make the movement of this climb quite enjoyable for those who comfortably lead at this grade (at Josh) and add to the feeling of adventure for those pushing their limits. The route also rises steeply in an upper section (P1) setting it apart from many low angle slabs whos' sloping character can hide the exposure and the feeling of being runout--something I think very much adds to the route'

Great route.....clean rock and a fun safe lead..Fantastic day with JF and KF....

I loved this route. I just TRed the first pitch but the movements were so much fun once I figured them out. The crux seemed to be near the first bolt. Gotta trust the JTree friction.

fairly runout, but not to hard for 5.9

Decided not to lead this one, as the first bolt is damn high over a bone breaking fall, 30 minutes from your car. On toprope, I found that the bolts are quite logically placed (just at the difficult parts) and that the climb is pretty cool.

Recommended if you have the balls.

Indeed the first bolt is rather high. The rest of the climb doesn't kick back until the top and even then it's run out but easy. Many of the holds were ity bity but there. The combination of which makes this a fun climb indeed!

This was a good warmup to get the footwork dialed. We were waiting on Mental Physics to open up. It was one where you steel yourself for the climb up to the next bolt once you gain the previous. Since the comparison comes up, this is definitely a 5.9 if Loose Lady is 5.10a.

Definitely one of the most sustained bolted 5.9s I've ever been on at J Tree. The bolts are FAR apart - Colonel Mustard's comment that clipping a bolt lets you mentally prepare yourself for the climb to the next one is ACCURATE! It's all there. Great stuff.