Type: Sport, 120 ft (36 m)
FA: Randy Kieliszewski, Steve Habovstack, 1998
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Shared By: John Steiger on May 27, 2011 · Updates
Admins: Andrew Gram, Nathan Fisher, Perin Blanchard, GRK, D C

You & This Route


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Start either at the base of Damned if You Don't or 20 or so feet right of Day as Night and gingerly fourth class 45 feet to a ledge. Damned if You Do takes the obvious bolt line above. A ragged, vertical shale band left of the bolt line can be disconcerting, but the bolts are close enough together that I think a fall would be safe with a watchful belayer. Easier than Rebel Yell, harder than Fine Arete, and definitely a step down in quality from both, the route is worthwhile nonetheless. The crux may be clipping the bolt just before a huge jug, depending on how you get to it. (Date of FA from rc.com).

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This is the line of bolts beginning off a large, loose-shale infested ledge system about 45 feet up, between Damned if You Don'’t to the right (the right-most bolt line on Dam Wall) and Day as Night to the left.

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Dozen or so draws to chains. Lower/rap from a single 70m.

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