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Conundrum Crag 


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Description 

Four routes from 10a to 12c. Rarely will you see anyone here, but the routes are fun, especially the 11a and 11d. East and south facing.


Getting There 

From the typical parking at the end of the Calico road, cross the wash and head right towards the Monkey Bar Boulder, passing the Plumber's crack boulder after a couple of minutes' hike. Once at Monkey Bars, several trails allow a choice of wash, near the wash, and higher up. Staying out of the wash but near it seems best-you will be entering Gateway Canyon as the walls close in. Walk about three minutes past where you enter Gateway, past a couple of overhanging bolted routes that seem decidedly non-moderate-this is Conundrum Crag. If the routes you find appear very close together and quite easy, you have most likely found Family Crag and you have gone slightly too far. Backtrack without dropping back into the wash and you're right there.


9 Total Routes


['4 Stars',0],['3 Stars',2],['2 Stars',6],['1 Star',1],['Bomb',0]
['<=5.6',0],['5.7',1],['5.8',1],['5.9',2],['5.10',2],['5.11',3],['5.12',0],['5.13',0],['>=5.14',0],['',0],['<=V1',0],['V2-3',0],['V4-5',0],['V6-7',0],['V8-9',0],['V10-11',0],['V12-13',0],['>=V14',0]

The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for Conundrum Crag:
Family Affair   5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c     Sport, 80'   
Wayward Son   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a     Sport, 70'   
Mr. Puppy   5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b     Sport, 1 pitch, 65'   
drilling miss daisy   5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c     Sport, 1 pitch, 40'   
Arrowhead Arete   5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a     Sport, 1 pitch, 70'   
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By Christine Gal
From: lake forest, il
Jan 27, 2009

FYI -- Handren's Red Rocks guidebook does not have Family Crag separated, it is listed under Conundrum Crag

By AdamJStubbs
Feb 5, 2012

Climbed at Conundrum today and noticed theres a new route on the very right of the wall opposite arrowhead arete. Anybody know what this climb is called or what its rated? Reminded me a lot of those bulgy black corridor climbs.

By dnoB ekiM
Feb 5, 2012

Adam, I climbed there today. I did the two new routes...both have white painted stainless hangers...that were painted at the crag on some rocks at the base :-/ Kinda lame to do that. That said, kudos to the devolopers as they are well/safely bolted with quality gear...stainless hilti bolts and pagan stainless hangers.


One is just left of Arrowhead Arete and the other just right of Drillin' Miss Daisy. As are all new routes at RR, they are still a bit crispy/chossy, but they will clean up, with some traffic, into pretty good routes. They are both about 11A. At least that's what I thought. There is a good sized choss-jug near the last bolt of the left route. It flexes easily, but I could not pull it off. I put a chalk X on it.

I have no clue on the route names or the FA party.

By Ashley allard
From: Las Vegas, nv
May 24, 2012

What are the new routes just behind you if you are facing conundrum?

By dnoB ekiM
May 24, 2012

What part of conundrum are you facing Ashley. Family Crag Routes? Drilling Miss Daisy? Don't Laugh AMD? or Arrowhead Arete? The only 2 new routes I saw last time was one left of Arrowhead Arete and one right of Drilling Miss Daisy...both are about 11a.

By Shawn Heath
Administrator
From: Forchheim, Germany
Oct 2, 2012

I think somebody should post a Beta photo of the whole area so we can see what the routes are and where they are.

By PaulRolewicz
Oct 31, 2012

Climbed at this crag for my first time earlier this month with a small group. Several of us did these 2 new routes that are not listed in the guidebook. Excellent routes! Many thanks to the setter! We arrived at the same grade consensus as well ... 5.11a-"ish". Curious to know F.A. info as well (grade, route name).

Shawn, Mike's description is really all you need (assuming you have a guidebook). The guidebook shows Arrowhead Arete and Drilling Miss Daisy. One route is maybe 10 feet left of Arrowhead Arete and the other route is maybe 20 feet right of Drilling Miss Daisy. If you are solid on 5.11 sport, you will love both of these routes

By Shawn Heath
Administrator
From: Forchheim, Germany
Mar 1, 2013

Thanks Paul. However, his description says four routes, and there are at least 6 (as you said, there are 2 new routes not in the guidebook). I would've loved to have tried the others, but I was visiting and this was my last day and I didn't want to try something I would end up getting stuck on. This is like what I think would be helpful: www.mountainproject.com/v/107197856

By Peter nichols
Nov 22, 2013

Lost:
I left a goal zero solar charger at the base of the crag on sunday november 17. If you found it, please try to get it back to me! i promise you'll enjoy a low gravity day in the near future.
Cheers,
Peter