Consolidating the Washington home page
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The Washington State home page has about 70 listed areas, which can make it hard for people to find a place to climb. |
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I fully agree. |
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Def. not a bad idea John. As Chris stated there is a mess going on with the Bellingham area section on the Washington page. Furthermore, the greater skagit area is a mess too. Redoing the WA page to run more like Cali or Arizona would be cool, but would also require sorting a ton of smaller areas that have emerged. |
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I agree as well Jon. I tried to express my desire to make some changes to the Darrignton page a while back and got little response. That page could defiently be broken down into a more well organized set up, i.e. clear creek and Squire creek with sub areas of three o'clock, green giant, and exfo dome, as well as squire creek wall/illusion wall, and waterfall basin, as I am hoping to add more to it in the future. This could also be put into a catagory like Mt. loop area or something like that; areas like Spring Mt. could be added as well as climbs like Darins new clip up on Vesper, The mule on Big four, and even the Tower Route at Big four. I think these climbs would get lost without an area grouping like Mt. Loop highway to direct people that way, and to let them know there is climbing in that area. |
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Sounds like a good move. |
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some admin make this happen! |
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argreed! |
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So, I was just given admin. status for WA to make the changes. |
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Yes, it should be larger, IMO. |
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Something to consider, though not critical: |
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Here's a map I modified. |
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To help sort what I know for the above map, to at least get this started (I am copy/pasting from the WASHINGTON main page):
1 - COASTAL / OLYMPIC 1 - Olympia (3) 1 - Olympia Area Bouldering (2) 1 - Olympic National Park (12) 1 - Chimacum Rock (aks Tamanous Rock, Big Rock) (5) 2 - SOUTH WESTERN CASCADES 2 - Ozone (59) 2 - Farside (69) 2 - Beacon Rock (0) - See Oregon: Portland Area (FAIL!) 2 - Fossil Rock (29) 2 - Little Tahoma (0) 2 - Mount Rainier (12) 2 - Mount St. Helens (2) 3 - CENTRAL WESTERN CASCADES 3 - ?Snoqualmie Pass (5) 3 - Zeke's Wall (10) 3 - UW Rock (2) 3 - Exit 32 / Little Si (71) 3 - Exit 38 / Deception Crags & Mt Washington (92) 3 - Exit 38/ Far Side (81) 3 - Index Town Walls (315) 3 - Gold Bar Boulders (125) 3 - Fee Demo Wall (4) 4 - NORTH WESTERN WA 4 - Mount Erie (75) 4 - deception pass (0) 4 - Darrington (15) 4 - Bellingham Area Climbing (54) 4 - Newhalem (11) 4 - North Cascades (63) 4 - Cumberland Crags (35) 4 - Julia's Outcrop (13) 4 - Newhalem (11) 5 - CENTRAL EASTERN CASCADES 5 - Stehekin (1) 5 - Leavenworth (637) 6 - SOUTH EASTERN CASCADES 6 - Tieton River (116) 6 - ?Horsethief Butte (1) 7 - CENTRAL WA 7 - Banks Lake / Northrup Canyon (24) 7 - Vantage (Frenchman Coulee) (289) 7 - ?Add Potholes 8 - OKANOGAN 8 - Whistler Canyon Trailhead (Oroville) (78) 8 - Toats Coulee - Middle Fork (10) 8 - Burge Mountain (Tonasket) (61) 8 - Mazama (63) 8 - McLaughlin Canyon (Tonasket) (0) 8 - Mount Hull - Lower SW Face (Oroville) (51) 9 - NORTH EASTERN WA 9 - Spokane Area (209) 9 - China Bend (1) 9 - Marcus (4) 9 - ? (or Okanogan?) Kettle Valley (Curlew) (80) 9 - Metaline Falls (1) 10 - SOUTH EASTERN WA 10 - Granite Point (10) 10 - Dikes, The (4) |
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I'll update that as needed. I didn't get all of them in there, but that is a pretty good start. |
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Fantastic map Spri, I think that is a good balance between having regions being too large (as Nick was warning about) and having them too small. |
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Really nice to see this happening -- Thanks Jon and Spri! |
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I think the Farside(69) refers to the Ozone area Far Side, not the Exit 38 Far Side crags. |
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Eric Hirst wrote:Really nice to see this happening -- Thanks Jon and Spri! Should WA Pass cragging be in the same group as Mazama and Winthrop? I could go either way on this. On one hand, the Methow is a climbing hub and WA Pass is part of that hub. On the other hand, it would be really hard to draw a good physical line between the Early Winters Spires and more remote N. Cascades destinations. -EricI think that we should discuss decisions like this. Personally, I think keeping regions seperated by mountain divides makes the most sense, since Mazama is much more sunny/warm/dry than Washington Pass. My thought is to keep it West side of the divide and East side of the divide, erring to stuff right at Passes as stuff on the West side, so that people can pick colder/wetter vs warmer/dryer climate-based climbing. I was also thinking, maybe just have a big circle along the whole cascade crest and label it "Alpine", but that doesn't really seem help with things like Icicle Creek and Index, since they aren't really alpine style routes. Hmm. |
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Jon Nelson wrote:Fantastic map Spri, I think that is a good balance between having regions being too large (as Nick was warning about) and having them too small. I can see how sub-clumping would help as well, for example for dividing the regions in the "Central Western Cascades" into regions reached from HW 2 (i.e., the Sky Valley) and those from I90 (i.e., North Bend Area, Snoqualmie Pass). We can modify the boundaries if needed, but that looks like a great start -- many thanks. I'll get on it after T-day. Mind if we use the map image you made?Hey thanks for the compliment :D By all means use the map. I also meant to ask, do you guys think that we should name the regions differently? Maybe instead of something like "Southeastern Cascades" it could be better to name it something like "Yakima Region"? Same goes for "Central Western Cascade"... maybe "King-county" or "Seattle-based Region"? Maybe go with something more simple for naming purposes? |
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So, we now have Spri's 10 Washington Areas. |
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Perhaps the "Northwest Region" could instead be |
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Hey Jon- |