Tierra Del Fuego 

11b sounds about right. The lower crux still needs to clean up a bit, a bit o' lichen. I think the real crux is clipping the anchors.

I think 11b may be accurate. It's just about my limit and it spit me off pretty well. I hoped that the middle crux was the end of the hard climbing. However, clipping the chains proved over my head. I had WAY too much pump for the mental step it took. Good route though.

Now you can either finish the original route and call if 11b or you can now climb another 10 ft of crimpers with 1 bolt and lower off another set of anchors to make the climb 12a/b.

It's exactly 60 meters total.

Thought this route seemed forced. Didn't seem like a very natural line. I think the rating is probably right, but the crux move to the anchors was what put it there. I haven't tried what Greg posted, but the moves I did seemed to be there just to get the rating up.

I am compelled to defend Tierra Del Fuego. The route was [TR'd] first. I never felt it was contrived or forced. You climb [straight] up on steep rock through multiple cruxes. There is no wandering around to make it harder. The route is "in your face" [straight] up climbing. How is that contrived or forced? There are no broken ledges and the corners on the left do not help you avoid any cruxes. The last headwall climbs very nicely in my opinion, with a one digit pocket to a cross-over to a hard side -pull and a tricky clip of my last bolt.

I never felt that my last crimpy move was the crux. For me, the crux is at the final bolt where you start to move left. I feel the first crux is at least equal to the last.

The anchors were place where they are because I felt that the next section climbed too close to Bush Administration and became squeezed with Natural Selection as well. Bush Administration trends left at the top and Natural Selection moves right at its top.

Now that the last ten feet have been established, I feel that I should have gone ahead and installed it the first time. Believe me, I thought about it but decided not to squeeze it in.

So, now we have a climb with two 5.11 cruxes and a 5.12 crux and every crux has interesting and pumpy or delicate moves. Name another route on The Little Eiger equal to that! My compliments to Greg Purnell for his contribution. The additional 10 feet are super crimpy but very cool!

Now I will take down the original anchor and let the route become 12a/b. I leave it to Greg to rate his addition.

I have climbed many other routes in Clear Creek, and I'd say that at least 2/3rds of the routes I have climbed are less fun and more broken-up than Tierra Del Fuego (routes on High Wire for example). It's my opinion, and I'm sure others will disagree with me.

I still give Tierra Del Fuego three stars. You guys don't have to like it.

Thor

Thor, I really enjoyed the route. In fact, everytime I'm up there now I have to do it cause it's such a cool route. I really like the movement of the climb, sidepulls, gastons, crimps get you feet up lean sideways, almost too cool. I suggest leave your anchors and that way I don't have to do the last moves all the time, it's pretty damn hard. Thanks for the route and all the hard work you're doing...

Greg's extension above the anchors (12a) is spectacular. Fantastic thin moves and solid clean stone. Good eye.

I truly enjoyed climbing this route again. I [shouldn't] have been so critical the first time around. Good work on this one, Thor.

Darren Mabe

The route is a classic of Clear Creek. It's one of the better 11s in the canyon. Thanks to Thor and Gregg for their work..

This climb was pretty fun. The good climbing outweighed the several rests/easy climbing interludes.

I was quite confused by the 12a extension...I was on the crimps at/below the anchors, but didn't see any other features for quite some time...and no chalk to help out a bad onsight-er like myself. I'd like to know where people went.

Thor! another great route.... Enjoyed tremendously. Made it through the first crux. It's the second crux that I need to work on. Will go up on Saturday and see if I can redpoint it. I'm just breaking into the .11 rating. Having a great time with your routes. Can't wait to try Tsunami of Charisma. Did you ever end up taking out the first anchors?

After doing this a couple of times, I feel this is a fine, technically sustained route. I did do the 12a/b finish and found it very thin and thoughtful. I found the body positions I needed to use seemed really improbable, but then I found myself somehow sticking up there when I fully committed. It's not a pure strength crux, because it comes down to focus, determination, and technique, not just raw power. You have to stay very "quiet" on the holds to get them to work for you.