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College Drop Out aka East Face North Side 

YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ ZA: 13 British: MVS 4b

   
Type:  Trad, 6 pitches
Consensus:  YDS: 5.6 French: 4c Ewbanks: 14 UIAA: V ZA: 12 British: S 4b [details]
FA: Richard and Joyce Rossiter, 1982.
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Submitted By: Ben Mottinger on Jan 1, 2001

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  • Description 

    If you're like me, the rating scale for slab climbs is different than vertical crack climbs. In other words, a 5.7s Flatiron and Eldo climb are very different in nature. You won't notice a 80ft. runout on the Third like you would on a climb like Icarus (5.6s) in Eldo. With that said, be wary, but not scared off by the serious fall potential rating.

    Start from the East Bench and move straight up. You may also move to the L and belay at a small tree on the edge of the channel. After three pitches, you can either move R of the "U", (7s) or through the middle (6s). After this fork, two more pitches will gain the summit.

    DESCENT: There are three rappels from fixed eye-bolts. A single 50m rope is sufficient; on the last rappel, you may either use a double-rope for the 140ft. mostly free-rappel or traverse [left] on a ledge and rap 72ft. on a single rope to the West Bench.

    Protection 

    Standard rack on the light side.


    Photos of College Drop Out aka East Face North Side Slideshow Add Photo
    Day off kindergarten, let's climb.
    Day off kindergarten, let's climb.
    Someone?  12-14-10.
    Someone? 12-14-10.
    Tony Bubb follows the upper slabs on College Dropout.  Photo by Peter Spindloe.
    Tony Bubb follows the upper slabs on College Dropo...
    Kevin's party was climbing adjacent to our party traversing the east face on either College Drop Out or Extra Point.
    Kevin's party was climbing adjacent to our party t...
    William in Timberlands and jeans. Gotta love Flatiron climbing!!!
    William in Timberlands and jeans. Gotta love Flati...
    John and Lori guilty of having too much fun on this route.
    John and Lori guilty of having too much fun on thi...
    Josh, newlywed from Pennsylvania, on his first multipitch climb.  Shot 2 of 3.  October 09.
    Josh, newlywed from Pennsylvania, on his first mul...
    Josh, newlywed from Pennsylvania, on his first multipitch climb.  Nice work man!  Shot 1 of 3.  October 09.
    Josh, newlywed from Pennsylvania, on his first mul...
    It's definitely the longest runout I've seen on a 5.7
    It's definitely the longest runout I've seen on a ...
    Josh, newlywed from Pennsylvania, on his first multipitch climb with Eric.  Shot 3 of 3.  October 09.
    Josh, newlywed from Pennsylvania, on his first mul...
    Looking down the second pitch.
    Looking down the second pitch.
    Rope is closer to the right than left leg of the reddish-colored U. It takes a couple pieces of gear below the U, then it is run-out for about 45 feet. Climbers in the upper left are on the Direct Finish.
    BETA PHOTO: Rope is closer to the right than left leg of the r...

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    By Ben Mottinger
    Founding Father
    Oct 13, 2001

    Did the route again for the second time today (after jaunts up the 1st and 2nd) and it really is spectacular. If you stay as far right as possible for the whole route, the climb is even more airy, clean, and aesthetic.
    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Jul 23, 2002

    ...This route indeed is very runout but I'm not sure there is any 5.7 on it. Keep a cool head and it is not bad at all.
    By Jason Carter
    From: Monument, CO
    Aug 2, 2002

    Climbed this recently, and using Rossiter's book climbed the shelf ramp just off the right edge of the east face for the first pitch. The start of the ramp is up and to the north of the 3rds base. It goes up 60m then it peters out and you gain the east face by overcoming the wall via a precarious bulging crack, 5.8. At this point the route just stays along the right edge of the east face and is a cruiser. You can see the ramp in the photo above. Is that some other route? The route line above just seems to follow the east face's right edge...hmm.
    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Aug 2, 2002

    Jason, I think these are just 2 ways to start this route. Rossiter also mentions a third possibility, "PhD Roof, 10c" which starts like you did and gains the east face using a crack through a roof. These routes all join after this section (although there are certainly plenty of variations to the upper part as well).
    By Jason Carter
    From: Monument, CO
    Aug 6, 2002

    Yes, thanks George - I have found that indeed we followed the ramp up 60m to a belay right at the base of the phdroof crack - we gave that a shot but had to back down about 4' and pull over on some edges - I did the roof on toprope and found it to be commiting, but very climable with good hands, but awkard feet - it has good pro and could go on lead with some gumption- I recomend the ramp variation of this route, but be prepared for an adventure getting off the ramp and onto the east face proper.... the ramp is a lot steeper than it looks, has small friction holds and has some lichen on it but the pro is good.......
    By Jason Carter
    From: Monument, CO
    Oct 4, 2004

    Climbed this again and started from the east bench. This is recommended as opposed to the PhD Roof ramp which is very lichen plastered.

    This time following the north edge of the 3rd as much as possible I wanted to locate the 's' section(s). For those who will follow that line, the 's' rating is deserved for that section that is in-between the "U's" right edge and the edge of the Flatiron. There truly is no pro from the base of the "U" until you traverse left at its top. There is a thumb sized horn on the edge about mid-way up that can be slung for "mental" pro. That said, the climbing is not difficult and the rock quality excellent.

    Really a top notch piece of rock. Finish the day with Friday's Folly for a comparison of 5.7 routes.
    By TBlom
    Oct 4, 2004

    Last year, I was able to do this route in 4X200ft pitches. If you start from the East Bench, and go towards the tree, instead of belaying there keep going until you run out of rope (hopefully finding an anchor). Stretch the next pitch out, too. The end of the third pitch put me at the top of the U, with a belay at a small perch (move left slightly). This belay was the first gear in about 60-70 feet, keep going, you'll find it, but only if you pushed the first two pitches as far as you can. The fourth pitch then stretches to the top. I tried to do this again this year, but belayed at the tree and screwed up my whole plan. I kept trying to stretch long pitches and ended up at shitty belays. Oh well, it's possible. I'm always more scared leading this than soloing, something about being pulled on by 200 feet of rope drag. Also, if you get stuck in a storm, or need to bail to get to work, head left of the summit towards the huge crack that turns into a huge gully/slot. This is more like 4th class, but a bit loose. At the top of the slot it is room like, definitely big enough to wait out a bad storm, or at least avoid soaking and lightning. A few bouldery moves towards the west puts you at the base of the first rappel. From here, it is just two short rappels to the ground (remember to move left to get to the bolts for the single rope rap). We did this to get off the face quicker, and it worked well as a "quick" retreat.
    By Guy H.
    From: Fort Collins CO
    Dec 19, 2004
    rating: 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b X

    I think some of the best climbing on this route is on the last 230ft of the route. The paint on the 5.7 pitch is kind of an eyesore. There is a blackish water groove about 20ft from the right edge that is great. The plate climbing that follows is also a blast. You have to avoid placing gear to climb these features (40ft runouts), but it is a lot of fun.

    This is the best east face route on the Third, in my opinion....
    By Steve Marr
    From: Colorado Springs, CO
    Nov 21, 2005

    Great route that avoids the crowds on the Standard Route. Some of the best moves on the route are the transition to the face on the second pitch (above the tree). About half way between the tree and the base of the PhD Roof, look for a large, pointed flake that points toward the roof. This is where we climbed up and over - steep, but good holds, good protection, and not a lot of lichen. You could also transition to the face from the first belay at the tree, but rope drag might be a problem.
    By George Bell
    From: Boulder, CO
    Dec 21, 2006

    I climbed this last summer with a friend who had little rock climbing experience and I found it interesting to try do do it in four 60m pitches. Lengthwise, I think it is possible (to be fair, no simulclimbing is allowed!!). The problem is that belays do not always occur at the end of ropelengths, and on the last pitch I ran out of rope 30 feet short of the summit. So I belayed off that huge chickenhead (on the standard route), and we did a very short 5th pitch. Darn!