By Jim Titt From Germany Jul 2, 2012
| They have been around for years, they used to make 3/8" ones which I had for groung-up drilling until they fell apart. They are a pain to remove, even worse if you fall on them. |  FLAG |
By agd Jul 2, 2012
| Can you whip on them or are they meant for body weight only? |  FLAG |
By Allen Corneau From Houston, TX Jul 2, 2012
| alexdavis wrote: Can you whip on them or are they meant for body weight only? "ClimbTech Co-Founder Falls 50ft Using ClimbTech Removable Bolt" |  FLAG |
By Jake Jones From The Eastern Flatlands Jul 2, 2012
| Now there's a guy that stands behind his product. Not to mention falling way above it. Good for him. That's pretty awesome. |  FLAG |
By Kenny Thompson From woodfords, california Jul 2, 2012
| So, That must be fun climbing around looking for the holes to plug those things into |  FLAG |
By Jim Titt From Germany Jul 3, 2012
| Looks like the patent was granted in 1996, I got mine maybe 10 yrs ago. The removing sleeve has been improved, thatīs the bit you have to hit with a hammer and a pin to get them free and was a weak point on he older models. The big problem was using them for aiding when bolting ground-up as the repeated bending screws up the thin wires on the spoons, in the end the centre cable breaks as well. A good product even though, I tried to get them to make a batch of the 3/8" model again but no interest from their side. They never caught on for free climbing because climbers would have to invest about $500+ for routes which donīt really exist (a couple of desert towers were drilled for these). Then there is the question of stuck ones and hole wear which made their long-term future dubious. And they are a bit weak in terms of replacing bolts and you need to go up to the 1" ones for a true like-for-like equivalent at $250 bucks a go though Iīd be happy enough with the 3/4" ones myself, still going to be a pricey rack! |  FLAG |
By mattm From TX Jul 11, 2012
| Jim Titt wrote: Looks like the patent was granted in 1996, I got mine maybe 10 yrs ago. The removing sleeve has been improved, thatīs the bit you have to hit with a hammer and a pin to get them free and was a weak point on he older models. The big problem was using them for aiding when bolting ground-up as the repeated bending screws up the thin wires on the spoons, in the end the centre cable breaks as well. A good product even though, I tried to get them to make a batch of the 3/8" model again but no interest from their side. They never caught on for free climbing because climbers would have to invest about $500+ for routes which donīt really exist (a couple of desert towers were drilled for these). Then there is the question of stuck ones and hole wear which made their long-term future dubious. And they are a bit weak in terms of replacing bolts and you need to go up to the 1" ones for a true like-for-like equivalent at $250 bucks a go though Iīd be happy enough with the 3/4" ones myself, still going to be a pricey rack! The Totem Cam guys look like they're working on 10mm RB for future release Jim so you may be in luck! Totem 10mm RB |  FLAG |
By Ed Wright Jul 11, 2012
| I still have a couple of the old-style 3/8th's which I use when bolting on lead when I can't get a good hook placement. I've never fallen on one but they certainly hold body weight. Here's a couple being used as an anchor. I trusted them to rap off and jumar back up the next day.
| rb's in action Submitted By: Ed Wright on Jul 11, 2012
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By Jim Titt From Germany Jul 11, 2012
| mattm wrote: The Totem Cam guys look like they're working on 10mm RB for future release Jim so you may be in luck! Totem 10mm RB Good news! |  FLAG |
By Allen Corneau From Houston, TX Jul 13, 2012
| c. christopher spikes wrote: Ed, why don't you have those two rb's side by side and equalized?? I'm not Ed, but it's a vertically-oriented anchor just like this one from Fixe (and Ed's looks fairly equalized to me): |  FLAG |
By Mike Lane From Centennial, CO Jul 13, 2012
| Mr. Spikes: the vertical orientation is far superior to side by side in terms of loading, and he has them equalized too. How long have you been at this? |  FLAG |
By Ed Wright Jul 13, 2012
| I was still moving up and had intended to place a real bolt a little higher but I ran outa juice for the drill. Like others have replied, those are fairly well equalized. By the way, this was almost 500 feet off the deck, so again, I trust these rb's. |  FLAG |
By Jim Titt From Germany Jul 14, 2012
| mattm wrote: The Totem Cam guys look like they're working on 10mm RB for future release Jim so you may be in luck! Totem 10mm RB I met up with Mikel the Totem guy at the Outdoor show and got one to try. They are going to be 10mm so you guys might be out of luck though for us itīs better, on the old 3/8" model in a 10mm hole the outer spoons moved too far up the cone and made them a bit of a pain to remove. It just fits into a 3/8 hole in a piece of metal but going to be interesting in the typically not-round hole you get drilling rock. |  FLAG |
By mattm From TX Jul 14, 2012
| Jim Titt wrote: I met up with Mikel the Totem guy at the Outdoor show and got one to try. They are going to be 10mm so you guys might be out of luck though for us itīs better, on the old 3/8" model in a 10mm hole the outer spoons moved too far up the cone and made them a bit of a pain to remove. It just fits into a 3/8 hole in a piece of metal but going to be interesting in the typically not-round hole you get drilling rock. I wonder if that 0.5mm difference could be made up for with a bit of wiggling of the 3/8in bit while drilling? |  FLAG |
By Jim Titt From Germany Jul 15, 2012
| mattm wrote: I wonder if that 0.5mm difference could be made up for with a bit of wiggling of the 3/8in bit while drilling? That would work but possibly it makes using the hole later for a 3/8" bolt a bit questionable, this someone will have to test I guess but not me as imperial drills and bolts are even harder to buy in Europe than metric ones in the USA. I tried in a metal block with a 3/8" hole (Iīve still some metal-working drills from way back) and it just goes in but the little removing sleeve is really tight which might give problems. |  FLAG |
By Chris Vinson Jul 16, 2012
| The 3/8" were made for a long time and eventually we stopped for a couple reasons. First, they don't have an application for industrial fall protection or rope access. The 1/2" are used for positioning. Second, they're small, the 1/2"ers are small as is and with the spoons and the wires and the cone...its hard to fit all that in 3/8" with so much going on. We do get some requests for them so this is great to have Totem spending time on these. Totem makes great cams and I bet they'll come out with a great RB in Europe. Jim, cleaning the RBs from the hole is simple with the new cleaning bushing. Here is a demo video of our 3/4"RBs (pay no attention to the concrete specs and all that) : I just use a smaller bit or an awl, really very easy to get back out. My name is Chris, i work at Climbtech, full disclosure! Holler if you have questions at all about the RB or anything else we make. |  FLAG |
By coldatom From Cambridge, MA Nov 27, 2012
| Mike Lane wrote: Mr. Spikes: the vertical orientation is far superior to side by side in terms of loading, and he has them equalized too. How long have you been at this? Neither pic (RBs or chained anchor) has ANY equalization. If you do not have some degree of freedom to equalize, like when using a magic X, you can not get equalization. But that's fine. The extension and the swing, if the loaded bolt blew, is minimal. That is the point of using the vertical arrangement. |  FLAG |
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