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By MichaelClimbs
From USA
Oct 19, 2009
Mexico roadside rocks

Found this cam in Sedona.

Anyone got some info on this cam?

cam 2
cam 2
Submitted By: MichaelClimbs on Oct 19, 2009

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Cam

Submitted By: MichaelClimbs on Oct 19, 2009


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By Paul Barnes
From Gainesville, Georgia
Oct 20, 2009
I love Tallulah Gorge

I saw one similar to this hanging on the wall with other gear that had been pull tested to failure in an REI near Minneapolis just last week.

Early Friend ???


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By Skyler Penrod
Oct 20, 2009
Castleton

Looks like a homemade goody to me.


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By Dan Dalton
From Boulder, CO
Oct 20, 2009
Working the sick hand-jams on Stemwide aka Big Dihedral (5.8) at North Table. Photo courtesy of Scott Borger.

Doesn't look like a home made goodie to me, the stamp on the stem look like was machined in a quantity of more than one. Definitely looks like a friend style came, I've never seen anything like it but this might help in identification:

http://www.needlesports.com/nutsmuseum/camsstory.htm

If nothing else, I might try contacting someone at this museum, they seem to have seen it all. Good luck and fill us in if/when you find out.


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By Charles Danforth
From L'ville, CO
Oct 20, 2009
Do a little dance...

As I mentioned on the other thread, it looks a bit like titanium. It's got that same shifty look as the Ushba Ti ice screws. The webbing color scheme suggests something out of the late '80s. No idea other than that.


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By Andrew Luke
From Rolla, MO
Oct 20, 2009
me hat

That webbing appears to be stitched by an individual rather than a company. The main thread concentration is at the center verses equally distributed about the width of the webbing. I have never seen a pattern like that used commercially and it appears somewhat sloppy (running over the edge, and the start of the zigzag up the center being bellow the zig zaging zig zag stitch).

My 2 cents


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By Brian in SLC
From Salt Lake City, UT
Oct 21, 2009
Climbing in Smuggler's Notch

Doesn't look Ti to me (I've got a set of Ti ones).

Maybe a late-ish 80's ROK friend copy.

Marty K might know...


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By Aric Datesman
Oct 21, 2009

Hey guys,

Stephane from the Nuts museum has been lurking over on Supertopo lately, so easy enough to ask there. Alternatively I've always found him quite responsive to emails... (address is listed in the Nuts Museum website)

-a.


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By Tradster
From Phoenix AZ
Oct 21, 2009

Ask Marty Karabin...he may well know.


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By MichaelClimbs
From USA
Oct 21, 2009
Mexico roadside rocks

Thanks all. It is totally Titanium.

I will chat with Marty K.


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By karabin museum
From phoenix. AZ
Oct 29, 2009
zebra power

Greetings,

I have this same cam in the museum but never was able to find out who created it. I received it from a climber in British Columbia who picked one up on his travels. The cam is Titanium. He called it a Russian cam from 1992. Most titanium climbing products come from Russia. I am not completely sure who the MFG is. Lets wake up Stephane in Corsica!

Rock on! Marty


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By karabin museum
From phoenix. AZ
Oct 29, 2009
zebra power

Stephane from the Nuts Museum in Corsica calls them "Russian Cams" from the 1990s. He has the same cam and one smaller. He too has found no further info on them.
So what we do know:
-Titanium cams
-very well crafted so not homemade
-2 sizes known so far
-from Russia
-1990s possibly 1992
-both Marty and Stephane cams have no sling webbing.

Hope this helps.........Marty


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By MichaelClimbs
From USA
Oct 29, 2009
Mexico roadside rocks

Thanks Marty.

I agree that it is well made and TI.

It is about the size of #4 friend.

Nice booty for me but a trigger wire broke.


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By Allen Hill
From FIve Points, Colorado and Pine
Oct 30, 2009
Czech republic

It's Russian, straight out of the tractor factory.


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By Greg Barnes
Oct 30, 2009
Hanging out with Karin on the summit of Warlock Needle. Photo by Josh Janes.

Hey Marty, while on the subject of weird cams -

About 10 years ago I bootied a medium cam in Yosemite that is labeled "KoubA" with an accent above the o. Looked like a factory job, not homemade. I always assumed it was Czech or something - do you have any in your collection or know anything about those?


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By karabin museum
From phoenix. AZ
3 days ago
zebra power

I only have these two KoubA cams in the museum.
They are from the Czech Republic circa 1990s created by the KouBA brothers.
I really like the craftsmanship put into these cams. Bomber two swedge design, awesome cams. The only downfall I see is the ring spring pins on the ends of the axle that holds the lobes together.

KoubA cams
KoubA cams
Submitted By: karabin museum on Nov 22, 2009


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By MichaelClimbs
From USA
3 days ago
Mexico roadside rocks

Hey Marty,

What is the entrance fee to see the museum?

I would totally like to see lots of gear.

MM


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By Brian in SLC
From Salt Lake City, UT
3 days ago
Climbing in Smuggler's Notch

MichaelClimbs wrote:
Hey Marty, What is the entrance fee to see the museum?


My bet is you'd get unlimited access with a Chouinard '67 alpine hammer or a Climaxe with a externally riveted on head.


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By caughtinside
From Berkeley, CA
2 days ago

karabin museum wrote:
I only have these two KoubA cams in the museum. They are from the Czech Republic circa 1990s created by the KouBA brothers. I really like the craftsmanship put into these cams. Bomber two swedge design, awesome cams. The only downfall I see is the ring spring pins on the ends of the axle that holds the lobes together.



Those KouBAs look a lot like the cassin Cama-sutras. And those things suck!! neat design, but wonk out super fast.


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By Greg Barnes
2 days ago
Hanging out with Karin on the summit of Warlock Needle. Photo by Josh Janes.

Cool Marty, the one I have is exactly the same as your upper (orange) one.

My one also has a "WG" stamped vertically on one of the lobes, with the "W" actually an upside down M. And a bit of old white paint on the underside of the inside lobes. Guess there's even a slight chance that it was previously owned by some climber guy no one ever heard of...but that looks a bit like Sylvester Stallone...


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