By Mark Nelson
From Coniferous, CO
Jul 25, 2008
| yep, they provide about the same coverage, they have a good shape to deflect upper & rear upper, as well as absorption material for top, front & temples; but the same failings as others. The first thing I do when I see falling objects is to crouch next to the wall, leaving my c-spine exposed.
Helmets are good, but they serve a limited purpose. I am about the most skeptical when it comes to media reports of an incident as if a helmet would have saved a life from torso/pelvic trauma in skiing, avy trauma, or a huge fall while climbing.
"Ah, well he was hit by a 20 ton boulder, got knocked down a couloir by a 1000 foot avalanche, into trees & talus, then flushed 2 miles down a river. But at least he was wearing his helmet -- if only he had his beacon on.."
helmets are a great idea; they just aren't an answer-all. |  |
By Jesse Morehouse
From CO
Jul 25, 2008
| Thanks, Mark. I always feel safer when I have a helmet and a small pack on just because of that flawed instinct for self preservation! | |
By Tradster
Jul 25, 2008
| Hands down, the goofiest helmet I ever owned was a Joe Brown
HA HA. I still have my old Joe Brown helmet I bought in 1974. It is a funky looking thing, but it kept my head from cracking on more than one occassion. It is a relic that I keep to remind me of my youth!
Tim, did you ever own Pierre Allain shoes (called them P.A.s for short)? The were black and red, and had absolutely no friction qualities at all. | |
By Richard Radcliffe
From Louisville, CO
Jul 25, 2008
| William Dacier wrote: Hands down, the goofiest helmet I ever owned was a Joe Brown HA HA. I still have my old Joe Brown helmet I bought in 1974.
I don't know which one is goofier, but I bet you can pick out the Joe Brown. It'll sure protect your noggin, but, man, talk about heavy!
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By Tradster
Jul 25, 2008
| Red one! It kept my noggin together when I did a double cartwheel fall in the Superstitions years ago. Clipped my head on that fall, too. Rugged but heavy! | |
By Richard Radcliffe
From Louisville, CO
Jul 25, 2008
| Jesse Morehouse wrote: Out of curiosity, any one out there have any experience with the Grivel Salamander?
I like a hard shell not only for its ability to endure multiple insults, but also because it gets tossed around a lot. I went with a Grovel because it fits well (i.e., comfortable), it's easy to adjust, not too heavy, and seems pretty durable above and beyond the hard shell issue. On the down side, it doesn't seem to ventilate real well and is therefore a bit on the warm side when you'd prefer it not be. | |
By Richard Radcliffe
From Louisville, CO
Jul 25, 2008
| William Dacier wrote: Red one! It kept my noggin together when I did a double cartwheel fall in the Superstitions years ago. Clipped my head on that fall, too. Rugged but heavy!
I have a white one too if anyone's in the market. Maybe they'd take it at Neptunes... | |
By wilcox510
Jul 29, 2008
| What about the Mammut Tripod? Anyone have or tried one of these on? They are just as light as the tracer (and cheaper too). | |
By Justin Roth
Jul 29, 2008
| new wild country Alpine Shield helmet just won an award at the german OutDoor trade show. it's light, comfy foam helmet for moderate duty, but which has a hard shell that screws on, for more serious climbs where sharp impacts are likely. seems pretty cool.
http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/news.php?id=1180 | |
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