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Day Lily.
I would like to learn something (or a lot) new today about climbing. Not just rock or ice but ALL climbing disciplines!

My question to you all: what city was Mallory in when he uttered the famous phrase ”Because they are there”? Why was he there (what was he doing)?

What trivia questions can you ask us (Mtn. Proj "public") that you think will stump us?

Big walls, 8000ers, bouldering, it doesn't matter the topic. Let's learn something new and get even more motivated.

Thank you for sharing.
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Day Lily.
Fritz Weissner lead the 1939 American k2 expedition. Who lead the 1938 American expedition? Why was this leader of the 1938 expedition pissed at, annoyed with Fritz (well name one reason at least)? The Stoned Master
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Day Lily.
One more mountaineering question came to mind: in 1950 the French made the first successful 8000m summit on/of Annapurna. What mountain was the expedition originally going to climb; what mountain before they turned their attention to Annapurna did they scout (same as first question of course) but found to be "impossible and/or improbable"? The Stoned Master
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Ryan on the Sharks Fin wishing he was on Mt. White...
Great thread. Alright "Stoned" Let's do this!

Paul Petzoldt was the leader of the 1938 K2 expedition. Petzoldt was annoyed with Weissner because Weissner would not allow him to be included in the ascent party. Weissner also publicly opposed Petzoldt’s inclusion in the American Alpine Club after Petzoldt nabbed the FA of the north face of the Grand Teton while Weissner was sleeping (Weissner was sleeping at the base of the route planning a morning ascent).
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I'll bite on the Annapurna question, since I just finished that book. The original mountain was Dhaulagiri, another 8000 meter. Only after scounting around it did they find no reasonable approach, with Herzog considering the risk to the expedition as a whole unjustifiable. BigRed11
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Day Lily.
Good job dudes! Now what questions do you have to ask us? The Stoned Master
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Day Lily.
What is the speed record, car to car, to climb Wallface Mountain, Adirondacks?

What route did Ray Jardine climb in Yosemite with his new camming units that caught everyones attention and threw cams into the mainstream? Hint: it was the hardest route ever free climbed in the valley at the time.
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Jan and Herb Conn are famous climbers but what other activity (besides climbing) are they also famous for?

What was the first V13 climbed and where? V14? V15? Who did it, who sent them?
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In 1988 the Salathe wall was freed. The route was steep and scary even for the climbers. Who were the climbers AND what was their morning ritual to get them over their fear so they could proceed fully? The Stoned Master
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West Face of El Cap? Greg Halliday
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Day Lily.
When was the first official guided ascent of Everest? Who was the guide and who was the client? What was the client attempting (hint: its a famous challenge still sought after today by many, its expensive)? The Stoned Master
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Upper pitches on Crescent Tower, Bugaboos.
The Stoned Master wrote:
Jan and Herb Conn are famous climbers but what other activity (besides climbing) are they also famous for?


Cave Exploration...Right???
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The Paul Piana and Todd Skinner part is easy. But I don't know. Smoke some weed maybe. You'd have to be high to free the headwall. Greg Halliday
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Day Lily.
It is caving. Good job.

Piana and skinner would take 40ft+ whipper purposely every morn to get over their fears right away. That's badass.
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Day Lily.
What is the first route at the gunks weissner climbed called? What section of the gunks is it at? What year was it climbed?


The duke of abruzzi most know because of k2. What major first ascent did the duke of abruzzi do in alaska? (He did more than one first ascent but this mountain is well known even by some non-climbers)

Anyone have questions they'd not mind asking? Really bored at work...
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taking a break from climbing shoes before rapping ...
The Stoned Master wrote:
What is the first route at the gunks weissner climbed called? What section of the gunks is it at? What year was it climbed?



Isn't that Old Route at Millbrook? No idea on the year for the FA. Not sure where my purple Dick is....
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A Very Not Snowy Christmas...
Very awesome thread Stone... Morgan Patterson
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Mt St Elias and I was just about to ask that one myself cuz I thought it was a cool link. The Duke must have had serious nuts. Greg Halliday
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Day Lily.
It is in millbrook and the year, if my memory serves me, was 1935. I'm trying not to "google" anything. Could have been 34. Regardless 1934/35 was the year(s). Impressive and awesome either way. The Stoned Master
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Day Lily.
"The Duke must have had serious nuts."

Definitly. I wonder what he was like "behind the scenes"? Like what was he like if you had to wait out a storm in a tent for days with him?

He had an awesome sense of wonder and was an experienced all around outdoorsman for sure. If I had that money id be traveling like him as well!
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Day Lily.
Who was the first party to climb el cap in a day? What route and how long?

This next question is vague purposely:

What famous climber took two years off, didn't climb at all, rode around on his motorcycle THEN returned to climbing to put up the two hardest free climbing routes in america within two weeks of eachother and getting back into climbing? (could have been world but I believe france, maybe germany already had several ascents done in the difficulty range) ? Hint: they were at least 5.14 and bolted
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Day Lily.
World war 2 had a HUGE impact (science/inventions/discoveries) on climbing. Name 3 "things" that we use today that can be traced back to world war 2. The Stoned Master
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Ryan Kempf wrote:
Great thread. Alright "Stoned" Let's do this! Paul Petzoldt was the leader of the 1938 K2 expedition. Petzoldt was annoyed with Weissner because Weissner would not allow him to be included in the ascent party. Weissner also publicly opposed Petzoldt’s inclusion in the American Alpine Club after Petzoldt nabbed the FA of the north face of the Grand Teton while Weissner was sleeping (Weissner was sleeping at the base of the route planning a morning ascent).


I thought Charles Houston was the leader of the 1938 American K2 Expedition? Houston was not happy with Wiessner for taking over the next years expedition, and not using any of the information that Houston had gathered on their trip.
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Day Lily.
Reinhold messner free climbed the first known 5.11a in europe. What route and where in europe? What year? Who was his partner? Hint: his partner would die on a 8000m peak years later and messner would catch a lot of shit for it.

Truthfully my memory isn't perfectly clear on who his partner was, I "believe" I'm right. If I'm wrong. Oh well. Well get the truth then somehow.
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Day Lily.
"I thought Charles Houston was the leader of the 1938 American K2 Expedition? Houston was not happy with Wiessner for taking over the next years expedition, and not using any of the information that Houston had gathered on their trip."

You're correct. There was a lot of back and forth back then, Dr Houston won out as the leader but was not originally chosen as such. Weissner was a choice for the 1938 leader also and as you stated Dr. Houston became super suspicious of weissner thinking weissner purposely didn't go in 1938 knowing there was a trip planned for 39. Houston was right in that weissner did use the previous years beta (the famous chimney section, etc) and look how successful weissner was. Free climbing 5.7/5.8 at 28,000ft with no gloves or crampons.

That's badass and was all probably possible because Houston found out some key beta. Fritzs k2 adventure (I don't think weissner was the...fairest leader to him men however) is one reason why he is someone influental to me.
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Nylon ropes for one. I think aluminum biners were mainstreamed about then too, right? RADAR was awesome too. Greg Halliday
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