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By Max Supertramp
Apr 23, 2013
So, Locker, I must ask: is it the acid or the edibles that disable your control on your caps lock?

Or is it the gloo?

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By Skat B
From Down Rodeo
Apr 23, 2013
St George
Clifton Santiago wrote:
Wow, Skat, that's a grip of acid to drop at one time. I don't think you're all that scattered, though. Just breathe a bit, and try to walk the razor's edge of moderation, in all things. Sometimes trying to post up for positive feedback online gets jumbled and static-y, like it's not really YOU that's coming through, so it's not even worth the effort, y'know? Remember that almost everyone here is trying to slam something for some reason so that somebody quotes it and gets +1 bullshit. You don't need that, don't give the gapers the satisfaction. Be well, and if you're gonna be "trolling", don't mention it here, unless you got some :)


Basically I live life in 3rd person (Depersonalization/Derealization/Disassociation)and I jumped in and out of reality so much that the two sort of blended in together in many ways. Every time I was coming off of acid I felt like the old me was dead and a new me was born. This went on trip after trip until I did a massive trip which landed me in the ER for a night screaming. I kind of laugh about it now. When I got out of the ER the following morning, I never came fully down, while there I promised God I would never use agin - which I broke as soon as I got home, and only copious amounts of benzos help bring me down from that trip (by maybe 80%). Over 12 years later, I'm still tripping - in my sleep, when I'm awake, etc. 24/7. The old me died in the hospital and a new me that's irreversible walked out that morning. My life has been a blur since! Really, I just want a good woman, to climb strong, and to get off this earth.

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By chuffnugget
From Bolder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Max Supertramp wrote:
Or is it the gloo?


It's breathing the glue man! .... the colors...

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By Max Tepfer
From Bend, OR
Apr 23, 2013
I climbed Monkeyfinger in Zion a few years ago and some jackass (likely tripping) had chiseled "LSD" (and maybe a pot leaf around it?) into the varnish at the fully hanging stance at P4. Besides being a danger to yourself and those around you, you do stupid things that jeopardize access for everyone. Not cool.

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By Clifton Santiago
Apr 23, 2013
Skat B wrote:
Basically I live life in 3rd person (Depersonalization/Derealization/Disassociation)and I jumped in and out of reality so much that the two sort of blended in together in many ways. Every time I was coming off of acid I felt like the old me was dead and a new me was born. This went on trip after trip until I did a massive trip which landed me in the ER for a night screaming. I kind of laugh about it now. When I got out of the ER the following morning, I never came fully down, while there I promised God I would never use agin - which I broke as soon as I got home, and only copious amounts of benzos help bring me down from that trip (by maybe 80%). Over 12 years later, I'm still tripping - in my sleep, when I'm awake, etc. 24/7. The old me died in the hospital and a new me that's irreversible walked out that morning. My life has been a blur since! Really, I just want a good woman, to climb strong, and to get off this earth.

Skat,
I got dented once myself, nothing like what you're describing, but I was gonzos for about 2 weeks. Less so for a couple months, and after a year or so I didn't notice it unless I smoked certain strains of sativa. Then I needed a dark closet, warm wet towel, and copious amounts of booze. Now I run a semi-successful business and post on the internet about the climbing I used to do (heh-heh).

Sorry for you troubles bro, but maybe rein it in a little? You have an onomatopoeic brilliance and an obvious yen to express yourself- there must be better venues for that than MP, right? (pearls before swine and whatnot)

We all want a deese chick, a proud send, and a personal relationship with some shit that transcends our shitty little existence. None were found on the internet, at least that I know of :) Be well, brutha!

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
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So, Locker, I must ask: is it the acid or the edibles that disable your control on your caps lock?

Or is it the gloo?
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Choice...

The GLUE is just, "Gluing on the cake!"

;-)

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By Max Supertramp
Apr 23, 2013
haw haw haw. Dood, so I have a re-sole question for you. I have a wonderfully well-used pair of Scarpa Dharma pros. The wear has not made it through the rand. However, the leather upper bits have had their stitching abraded away in several places. Is it worth my while to send these great (now discontinued) shoes to a re-soler to get them re-soled and stitched back into shape, or should I just cut my losses?


on acid.

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
David Sahalie wrote:
LSD is a fun ride, but the DMT is what really put things in perspective for me, in a good way.

Ever Spirit-Flipped?
OF course, that is a rhetorical question.

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By JesseT
From Portland, OR
Apr 23, 2013
25' drop...wheeeeee!
Since I, of course, have never taken a single drug ;), I will recount a story that happened to my cat.

Back when my cat used to skateboard a lot (and eat a lot of drugs), he discovered that a hit or three of acid made him skate about 2 months better. Even though my cat felt less focused, it was like the acid helped him get out of his own way and reach his maximum potential. It was as if my cat was more in the flow of things...everything felt smoother and easier, almost like dancing.

I imagine it would be the same for climbing, but trusting acid-placed pro might be worrysome.

Anyway, I've always thought that the climbing itself would be awesome, but the best way to do it (for safety's sake) is to trip while your partner is sober and sets topropes and does all the belaying for the day. The next day your partner gets to trip while you belay/set anchors sober. Safe, fun, what's not to love? (except that you don't get to lead)

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By Tom-onator
From This Galaxy
Apr 23, 2013
Tom-onator
Funniest cat story I ever heard Jesse!
Had a little spittle come out laughing at your "cat ate a lot of drugs" part.
Thnx 4 d chuck L

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
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If you haven't been foolish enough to try it yet. If you get the strongest "Salvia" available and take one hell of a HUGE fucking hit, I guarantee you're going somewhere you've never been before. Real GOOD chance you'll never want to go back either. That shit, is SHIT and can send you way the fuck out there.

NOT that I would know.

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By Skat B
From Down Rodeo
Apr 23, 2013
St George
Clifton Santiago wrote:
Skat, I got dented once myself, nothing like what you're describing, but I was gonzos for about 2 weeks. Less so for a couple months, and after a year or so I didn't notice it unless I smoked certain strains of sativa. Then I needed a dark closet, warm wet towel, and copious amounts of booze. Now I run a semi-successful business and post on the internet about the climbing I used to do (heh-heh). Sorry for you troubles bro, but maybe rein it in a little? You have an onomatopoeic brilliance and an obvious yen to express yourself- there must be better venues for that than MP, right? (pearls before swine and whatnot) We all want a deese chick, a proud send, and a personal relationship with some shit that transcends our shitty little existence. None were found on the internet, at least that I know of :) Be well, brutha!


LSD is as unique as each person. I had a schizophrenic friend who got zero visuals from taking acid and also used to work with a guy that couldn't talk for 2 weeks after his trip. It's crazy how different it affects everyone! I have also smoked the hell out of salvia and it is its own thing - I can't compare it to other hallucinogens. A reoccurring theme in my salvia trips was that I usually turned into a push room, paintbrush , or a toothbrush. Not only was I a brush but also something was pushing me against something - a canvas, floor, etc. It was that 80X stuff that they sold or used to sell in smoke shops and the Internet. Oh yeah, and never drop acid at work cuz you'll drink all of the orange juice out of the vending machine and your boss will grow horns while he's bitching you out over something that doesn't exist in your world but it does in his.

Well, this is how the world works: All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him!

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By Skat B
From Down Rodeo
Apr 23, 2013
St George
Locker wrote:
If you haven't been foolish enough to try it yet. If you get the strongest "Salvia" available and take one hell of a HUGE fucking hit, I guarantee you're going somewhere you've never been before. Real GOOD chance you'll never want to go back either. That shit, is SHIT and can send you way the fuck out there. NOT that I would know.


There is a huge difference between salvia, shrooms, and LSD. I still never got to try mescaline though, besides eating those weak San Pedro cacti. I'll offer a cam for a good mescaline trip!

But, yeah, about Salvia. I was coming down from salvia when I took that 45-50ft fall and decked. They had to crank up the morphine all the way up cuz it just wasn't binding well to my opioid receptors (I think salvia binds tho). Which reminds me.....

youtu.be/rRaDrYci3OE

Next week: B.A.S.E. "squirrel suit" jumping on heroin

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By Clifton Santiago
Apr 24, 2013
Skat B wrote:
LSD is as unique as each person. I had a schizophrenic friend who got zero visuals from taking acid and also used to work with a guy that couldn't talk for 2 weeks after his trip. It's crazy how different it affects everyone! I have also smoked the hell out of salvia and it is its own thing - I can't compare it to other hallucinogens. A reoccurring theme in my salvia trips was that I usually turned into a push room, paintbrush , or a toothbrush. Not only was I a brush but also something was pushing me against something - a canvas, floor, etc. It was that 80X stuff that they sold or used to sell in smoke shops and the Internet. Oh yeah, and never drop acid at work cuz you'll drink all of the orange juice out of the vending machine and your boss will grow horns while he's bitching you out over something that doesn't exist in your world but it does in his. Well, this is how the world works: All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him!

Werd! I guess you're gonna take it at your own pace.
Shine on, you crazy diamond, I'm out

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Apr 24, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
Not sure how we ended up on Salvia here, but climbing on that isn't going to be very likely at all, even if you wanted to try. It is highly unlikely that on much of a dose at all you are going to be anywhere near what most people would call conscious. I'm not convinced it would be all bad like Locker implies, but when you come to, you might not know your name, recognize where you are, or be able to feel your body for a while... so if you chose to do that, be sure you are with good friends.

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By APBT1976
Apr 24, 2013
Black Dike 12/25/11
Help a old guy out and explain what salvia is? I clearly know what sativa is but salvia is that the stupid shit Miley Cirus got caught smoking.

Like is it the same thing as bath salts or something. If so what the hell are bath salts? I am so outa touch thank god;) I watched a movie yesterday and the kids got high on the regular using cleaning stuff from under the kitchen sink "nasty". Sure i did it once or twice as kid but we had real drugs to do and they where really really good. Hard to believe so much has changed since just the 90's!!!

I almost feel bad for kids these days. So what is Salvia?

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By chuffnugget
From Bolder, CO
Apr 24, 2013
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_d...

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By Micahisaac
From Longmont, CO
Apr 24, 2013
soloing Boulder Canyon Upper Falls
is this the thread about Alex Gray? Far out man!

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By The Stoned Master
Administrator
From Pennsylvania
Apr 24, 2013
Day Lily.
You're all a bunch of dirty hippies! Go clean yourself...

Gnarly photos, never heard of the dude. Good stuff.

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 24, 2013
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"but when you come to, you might not know your name, recognize where you are, or be able to feel your body for a while..."



That sounds a weeeeeeee bit like personal experience.

LOL!

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 24, 2013
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"I don't actually climb, either.".



Fuck! That's the same thing my partners tell me!

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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Apr 24, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.
The Stoned Master wrote:
You're all a bunch of dirty hippies! Go clean yourself... Gnarly photos, never heard of the dude. Good stuff.

Mark Henson does some pretty similar work:

I think it just might be DMT inspired.

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By JesseT
From Portland, OR
Apr 24, 2013
25' drop...wheeeeee!
APBT1976 wrote:
Help a old guy out and explain what salvia is? I clearly know what sativa is but salvia is that the stupid shit Miley Cirus got caught smoking. Like is it the same thing as bath salts or something. If so what the hell are bath salts? I am so outa touch thank god;) I watched a movie yesterday and the kids got high on the regular using cleaning stuff from under the kitchen sink "nasty". Sure i did it once or twice as kid but we had real drugs to do and they where really really good. Hard to believe so much has changed since just the 90's!!! I almost feel bad for kids these days. So what is Salvia?


Salvia divinorum is a relative of the sage plant (yes, the herb). It contains salvinorin compounds, most notably salvinorin A which is a kappa-opioid receptor agonist.

Now, when most people think about opiates they think of stuff like oxycodone (percocet, oxycontin), hydrocodone (vicodin), morphine, heroin, opium, etc. These are agonists of the mu-opioid receptor which is associated with a euphoric state and pain relief. The kappa-opioid receptor is associated with dysphoria, delerium and disassociation (can I coin a term? The three D's?). This is a different mechanism of action from any other class of hallucinogens, most of which act on serotonin, dopamine, NMDA and/or norepinephrine receptors. As such, it is difficult to compare the effects of salvia to those of other drugs. Salvinorin A has a huge therapeutic index (effective dose<<<fatal dose), and it appears that you'd have to try really really hard to OD from it. It it's your thing, go for it.

"Bath salts" originally contained mephedrone, which is supposedly similar to MDMA (ecstasy), but now can contain pretty much any substisuted cathinone. There have been many MDMA analogues produced in the wake of its illegality. Most of them have more side effects and aren't as "magical", but they're technically legal, so people use them. Mephedrone is a substituted cathinone (synthetic versions of cathinone, which is a chemical found in the khat plant). In the case of mephedrone (and other substituted cathinones), more amphetamine-like effects are produced, sometimes resulting in long- and/or short-term amphetamine-psychosis-like symptoms (possibly caused by dopamine neurotoxicity, though "bath salts" are pretty new on the marked and there aren't any long-term-use studies I know of). Don't take "bath salts", even if it is your thing. You'd be better off with crank, and that's saying something (stay away from that shit too).

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By Skat B
From Down Rodeo
Apr 24, 2013
St George
JesseT wrote:
Salvinorin A has a huge therapeutic index (effective dose<<<fatal dose), and it appears that you'd have to try really really hard to OD from it. It it's your thing, go for it.


Basically, like weed, you'd have to cut off all air supply to the lungs & brain and essentially suffocate yourself. Also, I am pretty sure it's about damn impossible to die from LSD overdose. I remember that an elephant was shot up with about a liter of LSD and that didn't kill it. But the scientists ended up killing it unintentionally when they gave it other drugs to revive the animal.

As far as bath salts are concerned, I had no experience with them and never will. One thing I do know is if someone around me is going to do bath salts then I need to break out the gun with the silver bullets just in case. And maybe use a wooden stake and mallet after sending the silver bullets downrange to their intended target.

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By Daryl Allan
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Apr 24, 2013
Me and my Fetish I guess.. ;)
Wow.. a liter? That's enough to hold Jesse's cat over for like.. two weekends or so.

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