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By EDGE
From Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Puffin, Newfoundland, Canada

I did this quite a bit in the early 80s, mainly in Yosemite. I finally gave it up for good after suffering an intense flashback while soloing a route years after my last dose; it came on unexpectedly and I wasn't prepared mentally at the time to be tripping three pitches off the deck. Fond memories though...


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By Woodchuck ATC
Apr 23, 2013
Rock Wars, RRG, 2008

Is acid,LSD, typical hallucenogens still as 'safe and enjoyable as in the 60's or has it become superpowered and screwed up like the new genetically enhanced pot has become? I have had no personal experience with acid folks for over 30 some years now.


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By The Phoenix
Apr 23, 2013
The Phoenix

Part II




COMMON BE A WARRIOR BUDDY!!!!


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By Ed Wright
Apr 23, 2013
Magic Ed

Never tried it myself (while climbing) but friends of mine used to do it all the time. They said it was especially good climbing at night.


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By JesseT
From Portland, OR
Apr 23, 2013
25' drop...wheeeeee!

BackCountry wrote:
I just watched a hilarious Vice video, Monster Trucks... on Acid and afterwards was thinking about Dock Ellis (pitcher whom in 1984 pitched a no hitter game... on acid) then, out of habit, jumped over to MP.com, saw the route of the day and wondered about climbing on acid. I can't imagine it would be anywhere near doable, but oh so wish someone has experiences that prove me wrong. Pretty please?


Tell that to Jim Bridwell!


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By Greg G
From SLC, UT
Apr 23, 2013
The route in it's entirety.

the pheonix - hahhaha in the beginning of the first video he's all "this is some good acid". what a fuckin kook!


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By jim.dangle
Apr 23, 2013

Kids still do acid. In fact it's having a little revival.


Jim


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By YDPL8S
From Santa Monica, Ca.
Apr 23, 2013
Korea 1 1975

Not for me, my few trips were bad ones. But I knew some of the people talked about here that put up some pretty amazing stuff on that little pattern maker. One of my friends said that it made the tiny, subtle slab holds stick out like they had a sign on them.


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By Will S
From Joshua Tree
Apr 23, 2013

Daryl Allan wrote:
I remember hearing about an enormous bust around 12 years ago at a place [family?] where a good deal of it was being made. Seemed like after that there was almost no mention of it. That is, compared to it being very accessible and talked about in the early nineties.


Pickard got busted when they were running the lab in the old decom'd Missle silo in Oklahoma. That was around late 90s, and yeah it went pretty dry from about a year after he got popped until about 5 years ago. They estimated that he produced something like half the LSD in the world for about a decade or more. Fascinating story in ROlling Stone when he got popped:

www.scribd.com/doc/8345280/Wilkinson-The-Acid-King-Pickard-L>>>


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By handon broward
From Rochester, NY / Aspen, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Elk Range, CO

LSD has undoubtedly become more prominent again. Unfortunately, I see few people who are of the younger ages these days with a full grasp of the power and benefits of it. Most people see it as a party drug to go out and have a good time on. I feel the knowledge of what "tripping balls" really is will slowly fade. More of a product of the wide availability of drugs as a whole now and the changing mentality of society than anything else I think.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

Several thoughts -
1) Yeah it's been done
2) It's probably a bad idea for most people - at least figure out how you handle your $hit in a lower risk venue first. IE: Say your partner falls and snaps an ankle or hits his head and goes out. Are you ready to rescue them? - The best general advice I can offer would be "Never do 2 stupid things at once."
3) Second best advice I can offer would be "If you are doing something stupid, keep it on the DL.
4) Referring to a later post, it is not just *kids* doing it.
5) Don't forget that it isn't just a shift in reality that might be dangerous, it is a shift in what you might considering doing on purpose. A lot of drug 'accidents' are not accidents at all. Seen plenty of that and some of the results are not pretty.
6) As for woodchucks question about it being super powered - NO. If anything, there is a profit motive today that was less present back in the day, and so people are cutting the vial/increasing the paper, whatever... a hit is smaller on average, and since the molecule has not changed, one can assume it is lighter per hit than it used to be on average. Of course the final outcome is not always that. That's because when you cat a 'dose' by 1/3 then people take 2 instead of 1... Well you get the picture, but directly to your question - no, 250ug is still 250ug.


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
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"I feel the knowledge of what "tripping balls" really is will slowly fade".


First time I took acid was 1967 (I was 12). So I figure I have SOME history. So with that in mind...


"Tripping balls" and that "knowledge" fading?

NEVER heard of the damned things!

What the HELL is a "Tripping ball"?


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By David Sahalie
From on the road again
Apr 23, 2013


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
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^^^

Is THAT supposed to represent, "Tripping balls"?


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By matt snider
From Flagstaff AZ.
Apr 23, 2013

Blotter is my spotter


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By Will S
From Joshua Tree
Apr 23, 2013

Blazing Buckets variation to p3 of Reeds direct went up, onsight free solo whilst flying on 'cid.


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By David Sahalie
From on the road again
Apr 23, 2013

Locker wrote:
^^^ Is THAT supposed to represent, "Tripping balls"?


Yes, or you can stick them in a microwave, then bounce on them while smoking MJ:


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
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^^^

"Tripping balls".

Now THAT makes MORE sense!


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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Apr 23, 2013
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www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tripping%20balls




"being srongly under the affects of LSD or psychedelic mushrooms. this is a superlative of tripping, and a contraction of the phrase "tripping one's balls off". unless someone is new to the drug, or very sensitive to it, at least 5 or 6 hits are necessary to trip balls."



"unless someone is new to the drug, or very sensitive to it, at least 5 or 6 hits are necessary to trip balls".

If that's the case, then the shit for sure is one hell of a lot WEAKER these days.


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

David Sahalie wrote:

David, I think that picture has a slightly more DMT flavor to it. I'm not sure I'd have called that LSD-inspired, but do see the reason to believe that to be the case, you know, the drop onto the molecule and all.

Locker wrote:
If that's the case, then the shit for sure is one hell of a lot WEAKER these days.

See my 1st post...


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By Clifton Santiago
Apr 23, 2013

Tony B wrote:
David, I think that picture has a slightly more DMT flavor to it. I'm not sure I'd have called that LSD-inspired, but do see the reason to believe that to be the case, you know, the drop onto the molecule and all.

Al Hofmann and his discovery


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By Tony B
From Around Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
Got Milk? How about forearm pump? Tony leads "Alan Nelson's Bulging Belly" (5.10, X) on the Lost and Found Flatiron. Belayer is Mark Ruocco. Photo by Bill Wright, 10/06.

^^^
Uh-huh... But what I still struggle to see is how the flavor of the art relates. Reminds me of other things. A little less geometric than most of Alex Grey's other work, but clearly somewhat similar in inspiration.
The prominence of the orange vs violet and chartreuse...
So I wonder how much of what went into that. I thnk Alex had a lot of different inspirations over time, and I am not sure how much of each informs his artistic style. In the context of the question posted "does that represent..." I was trying to take a swing at that question.

Now if one is to suppose that the 'general culture' sprung from that moment, then it seems to make more sense.


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By T Howes
From Bozeman, MT
Apr 23, 2013

I started climbing after a mushroom trip... during which I 4th classed some gnarly stuff in the Valley of Fire.


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By Clifton Santiago
Apr 23, 2013

Tony B wrote:
^^^ Uh-huh... But what I still struggle to see is how the flavor of the art relates. Reminds me of other things. A little less geometric than most of Alex Grey's other work, but clearly somewhat similar in inspiration. The prominence of the orange vs violet and chartreuse... So I wonder how much of what went into that. I thnk Alex had a lot of different inspirations over time, and I am not sure how much of each informs his artistic style. In the context of the question posted "does that represent..." I was trying to take a swing at that question. Now if one is to suppose that the 'general culture' sprung from that moment, then it seems to make more sense.

It seems to me the image is perhaps informed by the experience but not necessarily representative of it. Hofmann is seemingly not even looking at the molecule, but past it. This suggests a disconnect between the creator and his creation, perhaps not unlike Frankenstein and his monster, or Kronos and Zeus.

I think your "general culture" interpretation (if I'm understanding it correctly) is on to something. The image seems to want to communicate more of the cultural/psycho-spiritual icons associated with the experience, while still conveying in broadstroke the essential psychedelic nature of the drug.

Dig the third eye, too

PostPost: I remember reading somewhere that Hofmann met Owsley (or maybe Kesey?) and was shocked at how much LSD he was ingesting/manufacturing per dose. It was like 1,000 times what Hofmann considered an effective dose.


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By Hansel
From Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2013
My ride

Wouldn't personally recommend climbing anything really challenging on acid, though it has been done as many people here can attest. Psychedelics remove the filter from your brain's senses, and really open up the mind to other sensations, realities, ways of thinking, etc. Because climbing requires such intense focus, I wouldn't want to subject my brain on acid to having to focus on and worry about gear, my safety, or my partner's safety.

Bouldering is a different story though. Very fun to hike and boulder in that state.


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