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By Cultivating Mass
Mar 11, 2012
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
Gigi, words fail me. Poetry.

You know what's creepiest about all this for me personally? Reading about myself through the impressions of total strangers.

I feel what JohnL's saying, being a real person behind the Eva M pics is pretty weird when the shit starts flying about what amounts to typical schoolroom sarcasm. "Killis is ________" is fine when I banged your girlfriend or pummeled your face in at the First Pullout (true stories, different incidents though), but it's surreal to read eight pages of talk about talking about talking about talking and feel like somehow I'm actually involved in this Bizarro World.

Mindfuckery. I had a serious, hospitalization-level work injury a few days ago, really painful and frightening experience. I guess after some reflection I'd just say that MP helped me stay entertained while waiting out the weather, and I'd definitely have beers with a few of you schmucks as long as you were paying. The trolling and stalking and threats and sangbagging and bragging on unsent V5+s are par for the course.

I'm still laughing about being temporarily removed from MP for a couple days way back for calling a certain overposter a trustifarian. Obviously I was getting close to the heart of the matter.

Life is short. Get laid a lot, make some memories, don't waste your precious halcyon days posting on page 1453 of the Wings of Steel forum.

Words from the genius. Ya betta akx sumbotty! Going out climbing-

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Mar 11, 2012
Colonel Mustard
Killis Howard wrote:
I'm still laughing about being temporarily removed from MP for a couple days way back for calling a certain overposter a trustifarian.


You have to watch it. Trustifarians are especially sensitive to being called such: Hey, I'm not a trustafarian, I have no trust fund! I just live off my girlfriend while my parents paid for my college, vacations, vehicles, and are lending me money I'll never pay back! But I'm not a trustafarian! Excuse me, I have a plane to catch, worker bee!

I hope you are recovering well from your injury. You are right that you do have to take much of what is going on here as entertainment. Besides cool photos and beta, BS between climbs to pass the time is what it is.

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By Geir
From Tucson, AZ
Mar 11, 2012
Toofast
I have no problem whatsoever with the admins deleting stuff they don't want here. They set the rules and people posting here need to follow them, plain and simple. It's not like it is hard to figure out what might be objectionable, and even if a comment is deleted, what's the big deal?? They are not shooting you in the head.

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By Cultivating Mass
Mar 11, 2012
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
Geir, that's because you are a total __________ who wouldn't know a _________ from a __________ if it hit you in the ___________ because you never got enough __________ from mommy dearest who was a _________ anyway and btw you can go ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________.

I actually agree with you, just wanted to practice deleting childish BS for when they upgrade me to admin status. Also, when I move up to admin, I'm changing my name to YOUARETHETRUSTAFARIAN.

Anyone still hanging on to a sense of humor?

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By Pete Spri
Mar 11, 2012
Killis Howard wrote:
You know what's creepiest about all this for me personally? Reading about myself through the impressions of total strangers.



Surely you are joking when you say that it is creepy that someone would consider you a troll that doesn't contribute much beyond forum banter and insults. To imply that you are something other than what you present yourself as here is just self-deception.

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By s.price
From PS,CO
Mar 11, 2012
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
Spri wrote:
Surely you are joking when you say that it is creepy that someone would consider you a troll that doesn't contribute much beyond forum banter and insults. To imply that you are something other than what you present yourself as here is just self-deception.

For the first time Spri and I actually agree. Imagine that.

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By s.price
From PS,CO
Mar 11, 2012
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
Old Custer wrote:
You have to watch it. Trustifarians are especially sensitive to being called such: Hey, I'm not a trustafarian, I have no trust fund! I just live off my girlfriend while my parents paid for my college, vacations, vehicles, and are lending me money I'll never pay back! But I'm not a trustafarian! Excuse me, I have a plane to catch, worker bee! I hope you are recovering well from your injury. You are right that you do have to take much of what is going on here as entertainment. Besides cool photos and beta, BS between climbs to pass the time is what it is.

Some of us trustifarians could care less what you call us. That's your problem, not mine. Just cause my parents set something aside doesn't make me less of a person. Still work 50 hour weeks and contribute to my community. Smart enough to save mine for retirement.
If your parents had done the same I doubt you would have given it all away.

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By MegaGaper2000
From Indianola, Wa
Mar 11, 2012
the dragon's tail, or dragon's tooth, or whatever....
I think I might be a trustafarian. Except, my trust fund wasn't very big, barely enough, in fact, to pay for a year of college. And I only kind of live off my girlfriend, in the sense that when I am working less and going to school more, she buys the groceries. I've definitely gone pretty deep into debt with her in the past, but I've paid most of it off later when I'm working.

So am I a half-trustifarian? A quarterfarian? or maybe a piggybankifarian? A bitofmoneystuffedunderthematressafarian?

I could really use your guys' help with this. Having never ever been exposed to the real world, I just don't know what box to put myself into so that others may dismiss me most easily. Any help would be appreciated.

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By matt davies
Mar 11, 2012
Killis Howard wrote:
I had a serious, hospitalization-level work injury a few days ago, really painful and frightening experience. I guess after some reflection I'd just say that MP helped me stay entertained while waiting out the weather, and I'd definitely have beers with a few of you schmucks as long as you were paying.

That sucks Killis. Hope you are healing up well and able to get back to work. I'll have a root-beer with you anytime, you're one hot ass chick!

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By Buff Johnson
Mar 11, 2012
smiley face
Killis Howard wrote:
Anyone still hanging on to a sense of humor?


Believe it or not, this past Friday, two 60 year olds got into all out smackdown on a public bus. A couple of us jump in and split them up (60 year olds on a friggin public bus -- we had to laugh), and some lady states pretty clearly: didn't middle school recess end about 50 years ago for you two?

Then, I'm researching in the public library, reading some of the typical banter in a computer commons area, I smirk at a few things provided in typical Killisian prose. Some dude sits across at another station, he belts out, "What are you smiling at? You think this is funny? Yeah, I got your smile right here with hollow-points from Panama."

okay crazy dude...


Anyway, humor can be dangerous; excessive humor even more so

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Mar 11, 2012
Colonel Mustard
s.price wrote:
Some of us trustifarians could care less what you call us. That's your problem, not mine. Just cause my parents set something aside doesn't make me less of a person. Still work 50 hour weeks and contribute to my community. Smart enough to save mine for retirement. If your parents had done the same I doubt you would have given it all away.


Am I jerk if I find this perfect illustration of my point extremely funny?

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By s.price
From PS,CO
Mar 11, 2012
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
Old Custer wrote:
Am I jerk if I find this perfect illustration of my point extremely funny?

You should cover that up man, your jealousy is showing.

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Mar 11, 2012
Colonel Mustard
s.price wrote:
You should cover that up man, your jealousy is showing.


Damn my jealousy! Always hanging out of my pants like an elephant trunk for every trustafarian to see with their privileged eyes!

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By Hank Caylor
Administrator
From Golden, CO
Mar 11, 2012
Yoda
johnL wrote:
I'm real. I've climbed with dozens of members of people on this site. Crashed in their place, drank beers, traded belays, and pondered the mystery of the crux with many members here.



Remember that one day we fully slayed it at the BRC?! You made the pink tape look like walk in the park!

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By s.price
From PS,CO
Mar 12, 2012
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
Killis Howard wrote:
Spri+s.price, the two of you put together don't make even one Johnny Q or Yarp.

I'll take that as a huge compliment.
I emailed my 79 year old mom to see if she would apologize to you and custer for her actions but she said she was too busy counting her money.

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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Mar 12, 2012
Colonel Mustard
s.price wrote:
I'll take that as a huge compliment. I emailed my 79 year old mom to see if she would apologize to you and custer for her actions but she said she was too busy counting her money.


Yes, apologize Mrs. Price!

Pampered and persecuted, I love it. Don't hate me for being beautiful, eh, S. Price?

Yeah, I don't get Killis' respect for those two either.

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By s.price
From PS,CO
Mar 12, 2012
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
Custer, you are going to have to come up with something better than being beautiful. Just like my situation, you didn't ask for it but it was dropped in your lap.

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By Cultivating Mass
Mar 16, 2012
Leading on the only "fair means" rack.
This post violated Rule #1. It has been removed by Mountain Project.

By coppolillo
Mar 16, 2012
It's quite obvious who the violators are, so I say suspend their accounts for a month and if it happens again, delete them permanently.

I enjoy MP and yes, Yarp's and several others', posts degrade the quality of the experience here. It's a user-generated site, so if a good number of folks find certain posters negative, I say get rid of them.

Easy.

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By Rokjox
May 7, 2012
Dear MP Moderator :

I have some expertise in this field that most of the syncophants here don't. But I expect that if I try and actually TALK about censorship and power tripping, I won't make the irst edit before my account suddenly says I "don't have permission to edit this object".

If that isn't the endall of passive agressive BS, I will never know what is.



Passive-agressive is what you call people who WANT to knock hell out of you with a baseball bat, but are too chickenshit to EVER face the consequences of getting in somebodies face. I think the guys who want to moderate are the biggest losers in this regard. Power tripping, THEY know what is good for the forum, what is good for the sport, who should be idolized and who should be ruthlessly suppressed.

I made FOUR posts to this site before I got cut off appearently and never a word as to who, why or how long. Or for What.

I been waiting since then to find a moment to post the followup to a FINE post I made of FRS radios, I have MUCH more I could say, to the education of thousands, and its not like that is a controversial topic. But NOOOO, I ain't good company for climbers, I got to be banned for daring to talk like an adult talking to adults.



A LONG time ago, climbers were bold, brassy and daring to death. Then a lot of pussies and pansies got involved in the sport because they wanted to be mistaken for bold brassy guys, (likely to try and get laid).

But those guys never had any sac, and never really made it in the eyes of the bold, brassy guys, so they got control of some webpages and are now making everyone KTA to be allowed to speak. THAT is how THEY influence the website and climbing world, by making it look like THEY are the men of old. Or at least the ones they want you to know about.

Not a man I ever met who was an actual badass could be turned away by these menchildren with dreams of control. But the menchildren are absolutely scandalized that they aren't getting the strokes they think they deserve for running a website into the ground.



Into the ggground???

Hell yes.



Look at the websites like Alexis, the ones that RANK websites and who their users are: check out the one year counts of clicks, eyes and average time on site for ST and MP. You can plot what threads run at certain times and see exactly what the readers are coming for, and frankly, its not for arguments by newbys about newby climbers and their pathetic "projects". Its not about how to girth-hitch a damn BOLT! Very few people give a shit about another 30 foot of 5.13 on some far off lump of choss.


I was appearently (who knows really?) banned for having a "disporportionate" influence on SuperTopo after SIX YEARS of posting. I posted hundreds of hours of solid material, interesting and informational material, and the threads got the kind of response a "Splitterchoss" or a "Cascade Climber" site dreams of. Now they are all over-moderating and their sites (especially ST) are flounderin;, little interest, fewer users, the threads barely move over days that used to SPIN the front page.

The more you "moderate", the more you demand that ACTUAL climbers curb their tongue, the fewer readers you will get. You don't believe me, LOOK AT THE WEB COUNTS! St went from the average user spending 5 minutes to under one minute! Thast means the aver guy now looks at the front page and reads NONE of it. And ST has an easier format than MP does for the average user.

If you want to KILL what it is you like about climbing, what you like about this website, just let the moderators take control. Let the Christians make all the rules, let THEM represent you. Which they will try and do, whether you like them or not. The land managers will be all for it, they can CONTROL them kinds of people, and they can use THEM people to try and contriol YOU, even if you ain't no groupie.


The Christians are getting involved in the forums and are all about changing the sites, changing the sport, changing the nasty people who are in it. They contribute NOTHING but little trip reports at best, where they follow soome guidebook and act all bold and brassy, but they are iron Pyrite, cheap and easy to find. OOOHHH, we did HARRY DALEY! SEE?? THEY think THEY are the mainstream, and so they get to manipulate YOU. And even if they AIN'T mainstream, they are more moral than YOU, Slacker. OOOOhhh, they got GOD on their side or they would be in control, see?

Do NOT sell out the very people that spend hundreds of hours adding content to your site. Already my buds are telling me Supertopo is DAMN BORING now, and nobody is reading anything. THAT is an honest to God quote, and it wasn't said to pander to ME.

Or give this whole place to the Christians and the other hyper correct pansies that whine for a safe place to play, where never a discouraging word is ever heard.

Make the entire world an EVEN MORE politically correct version of Kaliforni. I don't live in that world, and have had THAT pointed out often enough. I still live in the WILD West, and your little bullshit has a hard time touching me.

I AM a climber. I HAVE been for 40 years. I will BE one long after all the little moderators have given up and gone off to watch NASCAR on TV, unless I die first.

You don't like something I say, come out and SAY so, don't be a passive-aggressive pussy, you pussies. The proper function of a website like this is to foster DEBATE on issues, not to let a moderator control YOUR sport.






PS BS;

Killis is likely the biggest, most macho man on this thread, and all you can do is cut his posts? That is NOT Manly. It is not Bold, Brassy, Shiny or Beautiful. Its ball-less. Or as they say nowadays "completely without Sac". You cant even GET to this thread without a pass-account, WHATS YOUR FEAR OF THEM OTHER POSTERS YOU ARE SUPPRESSING?

That they will have disporportionate influence?

THEN WRITE DSAMMIT! If you climb and somebody else does a better job of it, just whose fault is THAT, slacker? What you gonna do, run to the guidebook author and get them banned from the route, demand they climb less, take a gun shot at them from the parking lot? ((Thats an idea...))

You WANT influence, BE influencial. You want politically correct tepid baby wash water, just keep on your present course. The small minded, self-righteous, panty waisted, pussy faced, pretend badasses will thank you for making the site safe for them to CONTINUE to pretend they are important and even relevant. You make them feel IMPORTANT and POWERRFUL.

Yours True-ly:
Rokjox

I may be a jerk, but I ain't a pussy, ask my buds of 10-30 years or more. They know me. You Don't. And if you are all so delicate as all that, I don't want to know you anyway, I already got all the women in my life I can stand. You are likely a flash in the pan, anyway. In ten years, you'll be gone and I'll still be a climber, skier, mountaineer, MTbiker and general outdoorsman who has taught more trad climbers than you will ever know. Unless I die first, at which point you will all say what a wonderful fellow I was and how much you loved me and respected my cantankerous opinions.


Bah Humbug.

Rokjox

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By clay meier
May 7, 2012
Thats Me
am I allowed to say go ________ yourself? Just checking

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By matt davies
May 7, 2012
Not so ballsy to post anonymously, in my opinion.

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By Carl Sherven
May 7, 2012
Rokjox wrote:
.... I think the guys who want to moderate are the biggest losers in this reguard. ......... I made FOUR posts to this site before I got cut off appearently and never a word as to who, why or how long. Or for What. .... I got to be banned for daring to talk like an adult talking to adults. ..... then a lot of pussies and pansies got involved inthe sport because they wanted to be mistyaken for bold brassy guys, likely to try and get laid. .... menchildren. .... newbys about newby climbers and their pathetic "projects". ..... The Christians are all about changing the sites, changing the sport, changing the nasty people who are in it..... Or give this whole place tpo the Christains and the other hyper correct pansies .... passive aggressive pussy, you pussies..... The small minded, self-righteous, panty waisted, pussy faced, pretend badasses .... I may be a jerk, but I ain't a pussy, ask my buds of 10-30 years or more. They know me. You Don't.


1) Spell-check is built right into the web browser you're most likely using.
2) You got banned from 4 posts? People like dorseyec, and JohnyQ lasted for hundreds of posts, and all they did was come into a thread and hurl a bunch of insults like "you're all a bunch of fucking noobs," or "you're all dumbasses" and leave. I have to wonder what you said that got you banned in 4 posts.
3) You continue your rant by insulting the mods.
4) You claim your only offense was contributing to the site in an adult manner, and claim you attempted to contribute to an adult discussion. Then, over the next several sentences you call people various names including pussies, pussy faced, pantywastes, menchildren, small minded, self-righteous, and pretend badasses.
5) Then you went on some rant about Christians, which was so ridiculous I can't even follow your logic.
6) Then, from behind a veil of anonymity, you call people passive-agressive, pretend badasses, claim that they probably got into climbing because they wanted people to think they're a badass, and you ended your whole rant by insinuating that you are a badass. That's called projection.

You're either a troll, or unbelievably stupid. Whichever it is, pretending you're adding anything of value to these forums while you hurl schoolyard insults at people, go on religious rants when religion has nothing to do with the thread, and pound your chest while telling everyone what a badass you are is just ridiculous.

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By Rokjox
May 7, 2012
POST ANONYMOUSLY??



FUCK!!


You don't have a CLUE, dude.

I got to be the least anonymous poster ever to type without using his name. Except maybe for Mark Twain, and he don't climb. If you don't know who I am, you ain't nobody either, and you ain't been paying attention besides. Actually, If YOU don't know me, so much the better, there ought to be SOMEBODY who is that clue-less... But if you want, email me and I WILL give you my name and address, and if you dislike me bad enough, I'll give you a plane ticket so I can impress you in person.

Don't bitch about anonymous posters if you wouldn't know them anyway. As far as YOU are concerned I AM Rokjox Bitrakn Teleski. I ain't changing the name, thats part ofthe problem. If I WAS anonymous I wouldn't have ANY problems like you are accusing me of eh? Just keep changing my Identity...


MY particular web browser does NOT have a spell checker, I am using a miserable flat laptop keyboard, and its not really mine anyway. Who the hell can type on a FLAT keyboard?? Given my eyesight, you should be happy I get anything out at all, I can barely read the screen.

I typically edit my posts after posting, that why they make an edit button. I spell check from memory, because I can spell, but I do so AFTER the content makes me happy.

Get used to it, wait a while and dont tailgate on my posts so close and you will get to read the finished version.


Whining too much about spelling is WHAY womamly for a climber.

I typically edit my longer posts

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May 7, 2012

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