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By Federico
Sep 23, 2012

So this might be a difficult question to answer, but im going to give it a shot. So i am slowly building a rack. Some day i might get to trad climbing, but for now it is going to be mostly for setting up top ropes. I will probably be climbing mostly at joshua tree and stoney point, where most top ropes require gear anchors. I already have a set of wild country rocks, 3-12 and dmm torque nuts 2-4. I want to start slowly aqcuiring cams, but that is going to be a slow and lengthy process buying one at a time, considering the cost. So my question is what size should i start at ? should i go for a size bigger than the 4 torque nut? or should i start at around a 1 (C4 camalot)? I'm really only looking at the c4's
thanks for any advice!


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By ben schuldt
From Morris, MN
Sep 23, 2012
me in mid summer on the column direct

I would start with sizes that are not covered by your nuts and hexes (rocks and torque nuts). BD sizes 1-3 sound like a good place to start. A 0.5 and a 0.75 should soon follow those first couple of cams.


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By Wannabe
Sep 23, 2012

Save the money you would spend on cams and use it to buy mentors beer and split gas with them. Typically you'll be following them for a bit and then leading on their racks. Maybe use the money to buy a nice lead rope so you're not whipping on their crusty cord. That's my .02 anyway. If you really must buy cams I saw start in the middle with a #1 or maybe .75 and then bracket around it.


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By Hans
From North Vancouver, BC
Sep 23, 2012

I would get 0.75, 1, and 2 to start. Then 0.5 and 3. After that, Mastercams or Aliens in the smaller sizes. And trad draws. And if the thought occurs to you to buy hexes, stop yourself.


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By kennoyce
From Layton, UT
Sep 23, 2012
Climbing at the Gallery in Red Rocks

Federico wrote:
So this might be a difficult question to answer, but im going to give it a shot. So i am slowly building a rack. Some day i might get to trad climbing, but for now it is going to be mostly for setting up top ropes. I will probably be climbing mostly at joshua tree and stoney point, where most top ropes require gear anchors. I already have a set of wild country rocks, 3-12 and dmm torque nuts 2-4. I want to start slowly aqcuiring cams, but that is going to be a slow and lengthy process buying one at a time, considering the cost. So my question is what size should i start at ? should i go for a size bigger than the 4 torque nut? or should i start at around a 1 (C4 camalot)? I'm really only looking at the c4's thanks for any advice!



For J-Tree TR's I'd start with bigger stuff like a #3 and #4. Most of the cracks at the tops of formations in J-tree tend to be bigger. If you were talking about leading then I'd probably suggest starting with 1-3 or something like that to complement your nuts.


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By Federico
Sep 24, 2012

kennoyce wrote:
For J-Tree TR's I'd start with bigger stuff like a #3 and #4. Most of the cracks at the tops of formations in J-tree tend to be bigger. If you were talking about leading then I'd probably suggest starting with 1-3 or something like that to complement your nuts.


That's exactly what i needed. It looks like i'll start off at a 3 and then maybe a 4 if i see i need it once i go, and then work my way down :D

Thanks everyone for the suggestions!


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