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John Richardson · · Greenfield, Ma · Joined Jun 2009 · Points: 60

So, Im looking to expand on my larger (1" and up) cams.
I have a bunch of smaller sizes (all of my cams now are BD c3's and c4 + purple and red linkcams).

I LOVE the c4 .75, but as for the 1 and up Im possibly interested in trying out another brand... I dont aid, just trad (New England)... I have the BD 1,2, and 3... but I really need to fill in that size range a little bit.

So, what would you go with - thanks so much in advance for your input!!!

-John

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

There are a trillion threads on this, but I think the overall consensus from what I've read is the in the larger sizes BD's have it hands down. I personally think they are the way to go.

The new dragons are out, but they don't really seem worth the extra loot. I think what you're looking for might not be invented yet...

Chris Owen · · Big Bear Lake · Joined Jan 2002 · Points: 11,622

WC Technical Friends #1 thru #6. That's 11 cams, with a totally useful suite of 5 cams bridging the #1 - #2 range. Team that up with a set of DMM Dragons, especially #3 thru #5 and you'll have a great selection to choose from on lead, Friends for when you can compose and place, and Dragons for the wider range panic placements.

And all manufactured in the spiritual home of artificial chockstones (nuts)!

markmaguire Maguire · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined May 2010 · Points: 5

I've been climbing on gear since i was fifteen and am twenty now. i have both wild country cams and B.D. cams; i prefer my wild country cams up to number three because of the greater outward force on the rock (i.e. less walking). i prefer the bigger B.D. units because of their bigger range

Kip Kasper · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 200

C4's down to .5 and Mastercams up to #4 (gives some overlap). aliens if you can find any.

Past User · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 1,069

put simply...you cant go wrong with BD, Wild Country, or Metolius...put together a good mix of them all and you will find yourself using different units in different cases. Sell those link cams while you still can! Metolius is my personal favorite, and every Metolius cam produced is inspected by trained hands in Bend Oregon. Those guys are passionate about safety!

Brad Mills · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 20
Keenan Waeschle wrote:C4's down to .5 and Mastercams up to #4 (gives some overlap). aliens if you can find any.
+1 for Mastercams up to #4
CO_Michael · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2008 · Points: 956

MADE in the USA!

Wired Bliss

Made in the USA with US suppliers.
· Introductory price (1995 pricing for a limited time)
· Stronger than Metolius
· Trigger bar that can be used with 1, 2, or 3 fingers.
· Extra protection for the TCU trigger wires. The black tubing over the wires and Teflon tubing at the trigger
· Smooth action
· 6061-T6 Aluminum(Not like Alien that was anything but)
· Light weight

JwL · · Holdenville, Ok · Joined May 2009 · Points: 0

Has anyone actually tried any of the Wired Bliss cams, or has anyone seen a review on them anywhere?

doligo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2008 · Points: 264

I'm curious to know - why you feel like you need to double up on larger cams, if you only climb in the NorthEast? Are there specific climbs you have in mind? Isn't the red Linkcam an overlap to the C4 #1? Northeastern climbers usually double up on 0.5, 0.75 and sometimes on #1 cams, but not higher up. Those who double up like mixing up with Metolius TCUs for their light weight and a different way they fit into cracks.

CO_Michael · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2008 · Points: 956
JwL wrote:Has anyone actually tried any of the Wired Bliss cams, or has anyone seen a review on them anywhere?
I have used them for 20 years.

Let me Google that for you lmgtfy.com/?q=wired+bliss

Russ Walling mountainproject.com/u/russ_…

“Still the best TCU on my rack. Steve Byrne was the grey matter behind Wired Bliss and as many claim, the entire TCU invention. Good units.”

Billcoe mountainproject.com/u/billc…

Summary: Introduced in 1984, Wired Bliss cams began the TCU revolution. They still hold a respectable position near the top of the heap, featuring long stems that make plugging the cams into the back of flared corners a cinch, great spring action, and outstanding durability. Plus, the trigger cables are protected by rubber tubing. I carried a Wired Bliss TCU on my rack for six years until someone stole it, and it's probably still going strong. The only real drawback to Wired Bliss units are their lack of cam stops.
Pros: Long stems; ultra-smooth spring action; rubber sheaths protect trigger wires; light.
Cons: No cam stops.
Price vs. performance value: A-

Climbing Mag – Wired Bliss Review climbing.com/print/equipmen…

Supertopo supertopo.com/climbers-foru…

Supertopo supertopo.com/climbers-foru…
Josh Brown · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2008 · Points: 20
wellle wrote:I'm curious to know - why you feel like you need to double up on larger cams, if you only climb in the NorthEast? Are there specific climbs you have in mind? Isn't the red Linkcam an overlap to the C4 #1? Northeastern climbers usually double up on 0.5, 0.75 and sometimes on #1 cams, but not higher up. Those who double up like mixing up with Metolius TCUs for their light weight and a different way they fit into cracks.
i have doubles from .75 -2 and climb mainly in the adk's and can say that i have never said to myself "why did I double up on the 1 and 2" that being said most every partner i climb with in upstate has these in doubles as well. lot's of climbs will take doubles in these sizes, can you get away without them...sure, but it's nice to place it when you've got it rather than stretch out another 10 feet of climbing when you would really like to put in some pro.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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