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By Sonoran Climbing Gear
Oct 16, 2012
New product from Sonoran Climbing Gear... Stop losing cams, retrieve lost cams and extend your reach! The Cam-Extractor is made out of aircraft grade aluminum, stainless steel tubing and high carbon piano wire. It comes in two different lengths, 30" and 18" and is proudly made in the USA. Check out our website sonoranclimbinggear.com or find us on Facebook.
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By Dankasaurus
From Lyons, CO
Oct 16, 2012
You forgot to list one feature:

Can function as medieval torture and interrogation device.


Seriously though, interesting product. Does this mean the age of booty is truly dead?

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By ethlogo
Oct 16, 2012
Correct me if I am wrong - this would function the exact same way if the length was fixed and you simply pulled on the handle, rather than compressing a trigger.

I bet it would also cost significantly less than $110. Might not look as snazzy. Or as silly. Could probably be made from a coat hanger.

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By T.C.
From Whittier, NC
Oct 16, 2012
I can't wait to see the comments on this one!

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By Ray Pinpillage
From West Egg
Oct 16, 2012
Middle
I can't wait for a stick clip that holds a cam.

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By Chris Norwood
From San Diego, CA
Oct 16, 2012
High on the Beckey Route on the Bastille Buttress ...
One of my buddies built a VERY similar product a few months back, with some basic hardware store materials. I don't think it had a trigger, but adjustable "trigger puller" secured by wing nuts or something. Anyway, I know he bootied a few deep, stuck cams with it but I'd venture to say he spent far less than $50 on the materials, probably less than $25-30.

Anyway, that's my anecdote for the day...haha. Not trying to bum anyone out on the Cam-Extractor though, looks like a cool product that is very well made.

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By Red
From Arizona
Oct 16, 2012
Cobra Kai
Nice, created a MP account today just for free marketing.

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By MonteGraham
Oct 16, 2012
Third trad Route in KS.
This ^ lolol. I'm glad someone checked.

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By Princess Mia
From Vail
Oct 16, 2012
Chillin' at City of Rocks
Looks like another great item to bring along....... With a couple of PASs, a laminated copy of FOTH, three cordalettes, a trigger kit, a large tube of sunscreen, camera, ten lockers, just in case.....

Gosh sport climbing is becoming more and more gear intensive.

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By JesseT
From Portland, OR
Oct 16, 2012
25' drop...wheeeeee!
Looks nice, but it's no Booty Clapper.

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By michael rowell
Oct 16, 2012
sail away, joshua tree
that #2 is a little undercammed there

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By skeeter
From Lakewood CA
Oct 16, 2012
I would not bring that along just for the prospect of collecting a piece of out of reach gear. Nice cam stick clip though for working on a project maybe.

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By Kris Holub
From Boulder, Colorado
Oct 16, 2012
Climbing the Ridge Direct Route (Capitol Peak)
ethlogo wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong - this would function the exact same way if the length was fixed and you simply pulled on the handle, rather than compressing a trigger. I bet it would also cost significantly less than $110. Might not look as snazzy. Or as silly. Could probably be made from a coat hanger.


Without the trigger you're loading the cam while trying to retract the lobes. It might be possible to remove it that way but it will be substantially harder. It's important to have a method to retract the lobes before actually pulling on the cam itself.

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By shreddy
From Frisco, CO
Oct 16, 2012
Ray Pinpillage
37 mins ago
I can't wait for a stick clip that holds a cam.

+1

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By John D
Oct 16, 2012
yeah, I didn't want to be the first to bash it, but i've always used 2 nuts, sling the cables around the trigger and pull. I think the only piece I've ever lost was a small offset nut. I placed it while aiding in the morning as the sun hit the wall, my second couldn't get it out, neither could I. I'm fairly certain that it got stuck because as the sun warmed the rock up, it expanded, squeezing the nut. I'm fairly certain this same action would make a cam irretrievable, until it cools off of course.

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By Vaughne
Oct 16, 2012
ethlogo wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong - this would function the exact same way if the length was fixed and you simply pulled on the handle, rather than compressing a trigger. I bet it would also cost significantly less than $110. Might not look as snazzy. Or as silly. Could probably be made from a coat hanger.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. It's not very clear, but if you look closely you can see that the orange block near the end butts up against the end of the cam and the hooks grab the trigger. Some of the photos on their website show this better. It looks like there is a groove in there, which probably works well for C4's but who knows about other cam designs. At $110 I don't think this is going to sell very well.

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By T Howes
From Sisters, OR
Oct 16, 2012
At $110, the cam extractor would have to save me from losing 2 cams. Considering I've never lost a cam in 10 years of climbing, I think the return on investment here would be pretty slim.

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By Brian in SLC
Oct 16, 2012
Climbing in Smuggler's Notch
Ray Pinpillage wrote:
I can't wait for a stick clip that holds a cam.


Epic stick clip's do. Quite nicely.

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By ethlogo
Oct 16, 2012
Vaughne wrote:
I'm pretty sure you're wrong. It's not very clear, but if you look closely you can see that the orange block near the end butts up against the end of the cam and the hooks grab the trigger. Some of the photos on their website show this better. It looks like there is a groove in there, which probably works well for C4's but who knows about other cam designs. At $110 I don't think this is going to sell very well.



My (very) simple interpretation:

Given a coefficient of friction of ~.4, cam holding force ranges from 1.35-1.7 pull force.

The pull force on the spring is roughly equal to the retraction force on the cams themselves. Which leaves the cam holding force at .35-.7 pull force, and the pull force is still at 1. Cam pops out.

I'm sure I've messed up everywhere, I thought about springs in a damned long time.


I think someone should just go outside, place a cam, then try to pull it out by the trigger. I'm really not sure what would happen. But I think it would come out.

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By Jeff Gicklhorn
From Reno, NV
Oct 16, 2012
Having a blast on the Sound of Power - Photo by Th...
The ultimate IC Booty tool?

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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Oct 16, 2012
Topo - Cliffs in Green
ethlogo wrote:
My (very) simple interpretation: Given a coefficient of friction of ~.4, cam holding force ranges from 1.35-1.7 pull force. The pull force on the spring is roughly equal to the retraction force on the cams themselves. Which leaves the cam holding force at .35-.7 pull force, and the pull force is still at 1. Cam pops out. I'm sure I've messed up everywhere, I thought about springs in a damned long time. I think someone should just go outside, place a cam, then try to pull it out by the trigger. I'm really not sure what would happen. But I think it would come out.


you're wrong pulling the trigger only cams the unit into place... go trad climbing and you should be able to figure it out. This is basic.

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By ethlogo
Oct 16, 2012
CaptainMo wrote:
you're wrong pulling the trigger only cams the unit into place... go trad climbing and you should be able to figure it out. This is basic shit.


I'll give it a go when I get home. Good old cam in the parking garage crack trick. If this thread had existed when I was trad climbing on Saturday, I would have tried it then.

Nice edit, btw. Thankfully I saw it soon enough to be slightly irritated.

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By Brian in SLC
Oct 16, 2012
Climbing in Smuggler's Notch
Nut tool and a pair of wired stoppers...

Or, a light hammer and a long piton. Maybe a long screw driver.

Stuck cams don't last long in the local hills...

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By Brian in SLC
Oct 16, 2012
Climbing in Smuggler's Notch
chufftard wrote:
Hexes don't need extracting.


Correct. Should either be left in situ or at home on the mantle...

Ha ha.

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Oct 16, 2012
Bocan
CAM-EXTRACTOR
CAM-EXTRACTOR


CAM-EXTRACTOR, now available. $10

Oh and it opens beers too.

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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Oct 16, 2012
Bocan
Princess Mia wrote:
Looks like another great item to bring along....... With a couple of PASs, a laminated copy of FOTH, three cordalettes, a trigger kit, a large tube of sunscreen, camera, ten lockers, just in case.....


All in a sweet Osprey pack. :o)

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