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Broken leg: all healed, but now have strange big-toe problems while climbing

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20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346

I broke my right fibula about four months ago. The doctor put some steel screws in, a plate, a Kevlar band, and then sewed me up. My leg is now pretty much healed. I have ran numerous 5ks without any pain. However, every time I try to bend my right big toe (Hallux) down, I get some pain, and the toe has limited downward mobility. Normally this does not affect me whatsoever—until I climb. After two climbs, I experience constant pain in on my toe while I am climbing, and the pain increases as the load on my big toe increases. It feels just like an ingrown toenail pressing into the corner of my skin skin, except that I dont have an ingrown toenail.

This condition has been rather confusing to me because I did not injure my large toe in the accident, and my other four toes can move freely in any direction without problem. I started PT about 1.5 months ago and I have since completed my PT program, but the toe does not seem to be any better. Any suggestions before I see the doc?

Pete Spri · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2009 · Points: 347

How did you break you fib? Fall? Could you have hurt your back during the same accident?

Allen Sanderson · · On the road to perdition · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 1,203

While in a cast you did not use your foot normally. Thus there was atrophy. Gotta get it working again.

20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346
Pete Spri wrote:How did you break you fib? Fall? Could you have hurt your back during the same accident?
I slid down a steep embankment/ cliff 25' onto a rock. My leg was pretty messed up. The foot was twisted almost completely sideways. I did not injure my back in the fall though, and I did not injure my toe.
20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346
Allen Sanderson wrote:While in a cast you did not use your foot normally. Thus there was atrophy. Gotta get it working again.
That is what I figured. I am just a bit confused as to why the other toes would remain completely functional if that was the case.
Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

possibly deep peroneal nerve still needs to recover.

sorry to hear, that sucks, but at least it keeps you playing on the Proj.

HNY

ErikaNW · · Golden, CO · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 410

+1for deep peroneal nerve - innervates the big toe and it makes sense with a fibular fracture. You must have had quite a bit of soft tissue damage and some scarring as well that could be affecting the nerve. Pain that feels like an ingrown toenail but when you look and it's fine could definitely be nerve pain. You might consider trying some peroneal nerve glides (there are videos on line or ask your PT) - just don't overdo it as you can really piss the nerve off easily with these. Start with 3-5 reps only - take the movement just until you feel symptoms then back off, symptoms should go away completely in between each rep. Good luck!

crankenstein · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 0

Sure sounds like nerve damage. I have had some in both feet from ankle surgeries. They both got better over time and especially seemed better after some months of strengthening. Good luck with that.

Peter D. · · Fairfield, OH · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 25

In addition to what Erika said I would look for a PT or massage therapist that does myofascial release, with the hardware surgery etc, you have a lot of scar tissue in that area that needs to be addressed. You can self treat by resting your lower leg ( outside) on a tennis ball, find the tight spot(s) and stay there for at least 2 minutes on each point then move to the next one. You also want your PT to check how freely the fibular head moves, this is about 2 " below the knee joint line, often after surgery, plating, casting etc the fibula gets stuck which affects the nerves muscle and everything in between. Where you in a walking boot? Often times this will throw the pelvis out of alignment, one hip is higher then the other, this puts adverse tension on the SI joint and lumbar spine. So just because its your big toe you need to have the entire kinetic chain assessed.

Google JFB MFR on this website you can search for a therapist in your area. Hope this helps, HNY.

20 kN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2009 · Points: 1,346

Good info. Thanks for the advice everyone.

Linda Booth Lowry · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0
20 kN wrote: I broke my right fibula about four months ago. The doctor put some steel screws in, a plate, a Kevlar band, and then sewed me up. My leg is now pretty much healed. I have ran numerous 5ks without any pain. However, every time I try to bend my right big toe (Hallux) down, I get some pain, and the toe has limited downward mobility. Normally this does not affect me whatsoever—until I climb. After two climbs, I experience constant pain in on my toe while I am climbing, and the pain increases as the load on my big toe increases. It feels just like an ingrown toenail pressing into the corner of my skin skin, except that I dont have an ingrown toenail. This condition has been rather confusing to me because I did not injure my large toe in the accident, and my other four toes can move freely in any direction without problem. I started PT about 1.5 months ago and I have since completed my PT program, but the toe does not seem to be any better. Any suggestions before I see the doc?
Linda Booth Lowry · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

So I would like to know, since it’s been several years, how is your toe doing, now? Have you gotten full use back?  
I broke my fibula (4 months ago also but in 2018! Lol) and they tell me the nerve damage is related to the nerve in the knee. A broken fibula happens when your leg takes a hit from the side, injuring the nerve in the knee area, laterally. 

Dilpreet Gillz · · Santa Susana, Cataluna, ES · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

In june 15 2018 i have big accident and my tibia and fibula is broker . Docter oprate my tibia with a tibia nail and 3 sqrew near my ankel ... but they are not touch mu fibula now my fibula and tibia is good .. but my big toe not work good ... now they are get out 2 sqrew but my big toe is same its not work good?

Lisa S · · Bishop, CA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 0

I’m 5wks post-op from a calcaneus fx repair (plate & screws) & am having similar limited flexion of my big toe, plus numbness.
My surgeon explained in order to get to the bone they had to pull aside/retract the nerves/tendons...and then scar tissue forms over the plate which is now under these structures.

Different fx obviously but likely same culprit.

I start PT today, which my surgeon said will include working on breaking up that scar tissue in addition to the usual strengthening. 
Maybe get back to a PT?Good luck! 

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