Bloody Corner 

C'est la vie? really a .9

I thought this was harder than the 5.9s I've done in Eldo. At least to onsight. Would have rather lead it with gear actually. Didn't feel it was that runout...but for some Rifle bolting perhaps yes.

Another lame and useless comparison to Eldo. The two areas are so far removed in both style, rock quality, and rock type from each other that this comment is just another attempt to inflate the tradster's ego. Can we just please leave these types of descriptions out? They do not help at all.

A person would probably be better off leading it with gear. The bolts set you up for an ugly fall the whole way. Still, I like the route.

Yes, I have climbed this route, and I've climbed my share in Eldo. Two completely different areas that I do not try to make comparisons. Comparing sandstone trad to limestone sport and then sand bagging a route at 5.9 is typical spray written all over this site from people that climb in Eldo. I'm not personally attacking you by any means, but I think it's unfair to compare the two areas. Back home in NC, I never heard anyone climbing at Looking Glass granite and then comparing the grades to the New River Gorge sandstone. It's obviously a Colorado mentality that's usually followed up with a comment such as: I've been climbing this long, and all over these areas.

"obviously a Colorado mentality"? Awwww c'mon man. Lumping everyone of any gender, race, location or otherwise is just not worth the hatin'. Come to the Denver Beer Night on Thursday and feel the love.

P.S.- You're right, comparing Rifle and Eldo are apples and hicamas!

I believe that Maurie and Phil put this up. Interesting route. Very different for Rifle.