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By Buff Johnson
Feb 21, 2013
smiley face
Damn, I was planning on using an incompetent physician.

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By DesertRatExpeditions
Feb 21, 2013
I got bit by a bat about a decade ago. Caught it outside the house. I didn't get the shots, even though there was a story on the front page of the local paper the next day about bats and rabies.

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By Dana Bartlett
From CT
Feb 21, 2013
you get bit or scratched by any bat

Isn't the virus transmitted through saliva? So a scratch would not be a risk?

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By BackCountry
From West Point, UT
Feb 21, 2013
Whaaaat?
I reached into a crack once, heard a squeak, pulled back, and saw the bat's wing move out of the crack a bit. No bite or scratch but I pert near shit myself. That would have been bad.

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By Paul-B
Feb 21, 2013
Flakes of Wrath
Dana Bartlett wrote:
you get bit or scratched by any bat Isn't the virus transmitted through saliva? So a scratch would not be a risk?



Thats accurate. However, watch out for Cat Scratch Fever (Bartonella Henselae), as far as I know, there is no Bat scratch Fever

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By Buff Johnson
Feb 21, 2013
smiley face
it's still a risk. probably that the saliva or droplet is on the appendage when it penetrates the skin, or that it was a bite but more a glancing one.

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By Jim Davidson
From Fort Collins, Colorado
Feb 22, 2013
I got bit by a dog and got rabies shots in 2004 in Colorado. I got 5-6 shots in the arm over a few weeks - no big deal. The shots in the stomach is old school in the US now (but perhaps not other countries). I think my insurance paid like $5,000 for that series of shots. At my local hospital, for some reason I had to go to the chemo ward to get the shots. Hanging out there for a while, and watching ill, brave people getting chemo stopped me fast from complaining about getting my tiny little rabies shots.

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By stephen arsenault
Mar 3, 2013
My brother died from Rabies. He was bitten many years earlier by a bat, and ignored it.

Many people do not realize that the virus can remain dormant in your system for MANY years before manifesting itself.

My brother had all the classic symptoms, and his brain tissue was examined at the CDC, in Georgia. He died from a Brown Bat bite.

You did the right thing.

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By EricSchmidt
Mar 3, 2013
todd w wrote:
The nurse freaked out because she bought into the same notion that everyone does.


What "notion" is that exactly? The one that says if you get rabies you will almost certainly die and its probably worth it to play it safe and get the shots?

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By Benjamin Chapman
From Small Town, USA
Mar 3, 2013
old 1/4" bolt.
Geeeez.......suck it up and get the shots.......IT COULD SAVE YOU LIFE.

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By aaron hope
From Walnut Creek, CA
Mar 27, 2013
Staying Warm on South Face of Washington Column
Sooo...I just got the bill. Not trying to discourage anyone from getting the shot if you think you need it but....$5,700. For the first day (5-shots). This doesn't include the 4 follow-up shots (one again in the ER and the other 3 in the infusion center). This thing could exceed $10K when all is said and done. Luckily I have insurance, but it's a high deductible plan and I'll still have to pay about $3K. GET INSURANCE.

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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Mar 27, 2013
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.
Get a Saint Bernard and bite that fucker. Hard. Full circle. You did the right thing by getting the shot. I've heard rabies causes a very painful death. I'd rather pay 3k than die.

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By chuffnugget
From on the road again
Mar 27, 2013
aaron hope wrote:
GET INSURANCE.


Or, move to a civilized country where companies don't profit off of people's pain. Paying 3k, much less 10k is ludicris.

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By Rob Dillon
Mar 27, 2013
My wife was bitten by a bat while climbing at Pat & Jack. We had to drive to the hospital in Merced, as the Yo clinic doesn't stock the vaccines.

She had to go back a couple times over the next few weeks to complete the series.


The bill was predictably enormous (~$9K) but we managed to weasel out of a lot of it as the hospital staff was unfamiliar with the sequence of shots and kind of botched it. I know this because they printed off the instructions from the interwebs and handed them to me while proceeding to follow them incorrectly.

The next year we were heading for a bicycle ride to include the Tibetan plateau, notorious home of a lot of pissed-off guard dogs, and so I ponied up for the prophylactic shot which would buy me a couple days in the event of a bite. This cost $900. I did get bit, in Tajikistan. The doc there told me there was no rabies in their part of the world and not to sweat it. I did, however, sweat it a bit until the incubation period wore off.

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By Greg D
From Here
Mar 27, 2013
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W. <br />
David Sahalie wrote:
Or, move to a civilized country where companies don't profit off of people's pain. Paying 3k, much less 10k is ludicris.


Yeah! Nobody should profit off of some silly life saving medicine. It should be totally free.

And companies that develop life saving medicine should have volunteers that donate their time. And doctors should work for free and hospitals should not charge to use their facilities....

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By aaron hope
From Walnut Creek, CA
Mar 27, 2013
Staying Warm on South Face of Washington Column
Greg D wrote:
Yeah! Nobody should profit off of some silly life saving medicine. It should be totally free. And companies that develop life saving medicine should have volunteers that donate their time. And doctors should work for free and hospitals should not charge to use their facilities....


I think some profit is fine, but the exorbitant amount of profit (even for non-profit hospitals) is crazy. You should read a recent article on exactly this issue: time.com/time/magazine/article...

For example, did you know the ambulance business pulls in more money each year than Hollywood? Non-profit Hospital CEOs making 3+ million dollars a year?

The sad part is that it's not the Doctors or nurses who are benefiting - all the money is being concentrated at the top.

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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Mar 27, 2013
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.
Where I come from, hundreds of thousands of dollars a year as a salary counts as being benefitted. I agree nurses could and should make more, however. I never met a "struggling doctor" unless he had four ex wives and a gambling problem. Doctors are the link between the cash cow (us, the patients) and the rapists (pharmaceuticals and hospitals and insurance companies) and it seems that everyone knows that symbiotic connection exists but us.

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By Greg D
From Here
Mar 27, 2013
Out of the blue.  Photo by Mike W. <br />
Fortunately, the government is going to fix it for us. Phew.

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By TWK
Mar 28, 2013
Glad you got the shots, bro. Sorry it cost you a bunch. It's a more common disease in North American wildlife than most people are aware of--it's real, not make-believe. You did the right thing (except for the getting bit part!)

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By T. Maino
Mar 28, 2013
Get a grip Jake. I saved several lives this month. I fix people every day. What do you do that's worthwhile?

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By chuffnugget
From on the road again
Mar 28, 2013
whoa, MD bitchslap

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By todd w
Mar 28, 2013
T. Maino wrote:
Get a grip Jake. I saved several lives this month. I fix people every day. What do you do that's worthwhile?


Posting on MP.com in the middle of the day isn't worthwhile?

Well, shit. I should get back to work.

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By EricSchmidt
Mar 28, 2013
T. Maino wrote:
Get a grip Jake. I saved several lives this month. I fix people every day. What do you do that's worthwhile?


For a doctor your reading comprehension sure does suck! What did Jake say that you disagree with? Or did you just feel the need to spray about how youre a doctor and we should all bow down to you?

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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Mar 28, 2013
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.
T. Maino wrote:
Get a grip Jake. I saved several lives this month. I fix people every day. What do you do that's worthwhile?


Yep, you're certainly a doctor. By the way, I too have saved lives. By taking them. While wearing a uniform. So suck balls doc. Saving lives doesn't always mean you're worthwhile. I know plenty of Corpsmen and Medics that have saved lives too but they make a MINUTE fraction of what you make because they didn't immerse themselves in years and years of expensive school in a bourgeoisie bullshit culture.

They system is fucked, and you're a part of it. I'm not begrudging you for making good money at a profession that you obviously have succeeded in. All I said is that six figures is being benefitted and nurses should make more. Everyone knows they do most of the work. Don't begrudge me for having a problem with a system where people have to go broke to get fucking fixed. Pompous much? Get a grip "T."

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By chuffnugget
From on the road again
Mar 28, 2013
@jake,

If he saves lives, he is probably an ER doc, and they don't make nearly as much money as a gerneal practitioner with a cushy 9-5. They work randon shifts dealing with drug-seekers, low income people with no health insurance, and mangled bodies that would make me hurl and give me nightmares.

I understand your frustration with the medical dis-system in the country, but an ER doc is not the problem. It is the pharmacutical companies, the insurance industry and the lobbyists that buy out the governement.

It would be like blaming you for the way the Iraqi and Afganistan wars are going.

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