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Big Guy 

YDS: 5.11- French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c

   
Type:  Trad, 1 pitch, 120'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.11- French: 6c Ewbanks: 22 UIAA: VIII+ ZA: 22 British: E3 5c [details]
FA: Jay Smith
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Submitted By: Zac Robinson on Jun 22, 2007

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Description 

Gorgeous splitter offwidth. Laser cut.


Location 

Far right side of the scarface wall. Between torque wrench and wavy gravy.


Protection 

The crack starts up pretty high. I scramble the first 40 feet or so up a slabby handcrack (you can walk or bump a #2 or 3 camalot. just don't leave it there) up to a ledge.

From there here is my rack. In order. In Camalot.
.75 (green)
1 (red)
2 (gold)
3
3
4 (new 4)
4 (old 4)
4.5 (old size)
5 (new size)
6 (new size)

that should cover you good enough. pretty much just 2 of each size #3 and bigger and you are good. of course more cams if you might have to go for teh C1 ascent.



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No hands rest
No hands rest
wish I was a better OW climber.....
BETA PHOTO: wish I was a better OW climber.....
Mike F having a ball on Big Guy
Mike F having a ball on Big Guy
Between the last good fist jam and the god-sent knee jam lie the difficulties. Bjorn in the thick of it.
Between the last good fist jam and the god-sent kn...
Getting worked. . . <br />Big Guy is the wide crack. . .duh
BETA PHOTO: Getting worked. . .
Big Guy is the wide crack. . ....
after my twenty footer- I was tired
after my twenty footer- I was tired
Buster getting in this daily work out by hauling up the #6 and not using it on Big Guy.
Buster getting in this daily work out by hauling u...
Brian Heppner
Brian Heppner
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By Danny Inman
From: Arvada
Oct 1, 2007
rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

Wonderful route, so much easier on top rope. While leading this, placing gear and keeping the rope out of my way became a fiasco of epic proportions.

By Sam Benedict
From: Denver, CO
Nov 27, 2007
rating: 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c

This is one wicked-bad route. Totally Bitchin'. I don't recall ever working so hard for an onsight (or anything else for that matter). I had to stop twice near the top to try to puke, but alas, nothing came up, so i kept on truckin' in a true blue-collar style. To call this climb sustained would be an offensive understatement. It's one of those climbs where no one move is harder than 10+, but EVERY move is 10+, and the fucker is 120' long! And apparently there is more, a higher set of anchors for the intrepid and sadistic few. Well shit in a bag and punch it! Who would want to keep going? It looks broken and burly above the first anchors, but whatever gets your rocks off, right? It is a great pitch to refine OW technique on as there is pretty much only one way to climb the thing efficiently (hand fist stacks). Oh and Danny, I feel your pain with the rope, there is kind of no way to avoid it, but you can make it better by shoving your larger cams WAY back in there (almost as far as you can reach), don't worry, you will get them back.

By Lon Black
Apr 2, 2008

Definitely get on it if you have the gear, cajones, and grit. What a total body workout. You may not wanna eat lunch right before going up it.

By Keegan
From: San Francisco, Ca
Jan 19, 2009

I think the best way to minimize the rope fiasco would be to attach a long runner to the cam you are placing/walking. This way you can place it above your head without pulling any rope up. It would also be feasible to place gear behind you. That way you wouldn't have to worry about passing and kicking your already tipped out cam. All this is theoretical of course since I thrashed and grunted my way up it the same way everyone else probably does.

By snowhazed
From: Oakland, Ca
Mar 23, 2009

Definitely runner your pieces and push them back- rope runs great that way. At the creek we always talk about the size dependence of the grade but it's always hand or finger size. This one is all about your knee size! I have big knees relative to my handstacks and probably had to go 15 or more feet higher than my friends before I could slot it in. I will climb this again!

By Tony B
From: Around Boulder, CO
Apr 23, 2009
rating: 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a

Really hard for those with smaller hands, feet and knees. It was too big to even butterfly or fist-stack up high & too big for my small knees.

By D-Storm
Apr 1, 2012
rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

The anchors might be worthy of some maintenance or replacement. When I clipped them on March 29, 2012, they were spinning badly -- I could hit either bolt hanger and send it flying around like a pin-wheel. The bolts are beefy, though, and if they go as deep into the rock as I imagine, a hammer tap and some tightening might be all they need.

By jeffro popko
From: montrose,co
Nov 14, 2012

i climbed this without long slings on my cams and placed them deep so the rope stayed out of my way even as i passed. i also didn't bring a #6 camalot and walked my final #5 all the way to the anchor no problem. it sure felt nice once i got my knee in there.

By Steven Lucarelli
From: Moab, UT
Oct 24, 2013
rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

F.A. Jay Smith. Original route went much higher than the present anchor. Story is that another party climbed the route thinking they were getting an f.a. and placed an anchor at the current location.

By WadeM
Nov 4, 2013

Super fun! Was hard to get a 6 in, but it does protect the last 5 feet to the anchors


.75
1
2
3
3
3.5
4
4
4
5
5

By Jeff Scheuerell
Nov 6, 2013
rating: 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c

What a fun climb. First time ever for me on a route like this. I did find it very sustained and it was so nice when you can finally get a knee in but I was still able to get no hands rests most of the way by sticking my leg in waist high and caming my foot then rotating my hips to cam my leg. Stack pull up repeat.



Gotta say I felt way more worked after TRing Generator Crack in Yosemite and it is a 1/4 of the length but for the Creek I guess 11- is fair

By The Other James
Nov 9, 2013

My 70m (a relatively-new bluewater rope) just barely got me back down to the ground, but you could make shorter/older 70m ropes work as well if you're OK with a bit of scrambling on the easy blocky stuff at the start.