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Asses & Elbows T 
Campfire Girls T 
Danger of Extinction T 
Flushed Down the Toilet T 
Grand Delusion T 
Ground Control  T 
Joke the Chicken T 
Live At Leads T 
New Species T 
Outta The Blank (and Into The Blue) T 
Panthertown Knobs T 
Paralleling T 
Scars on a Landscape T 
Valley Christians  T 
Welcome to Emerald City T 
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Big Green  

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Submitted By: BHMBen on May 27, 2009
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Excellent slab, face, and watergroove climbing over crisp granite with great friction in a beautiful mountain valley.

Paralleling (10), Ground Control (8+), Panthertown Knobs (9+) provide for some of the technically easiest climbing, but still should be treated with the utmost respect. Almost every route here gets an R rating. A fall on any route here could be nasty.

Getting There 

From the parking lot, follow the old roadbed TR474, past Salt Rock overlook on your left and down the hill. After a few minutes take a right on Deep Gap TR449 until you encounter a pine grove on the left. Walk diagonally through to pine grove to a faint trail leading to the SE, ultimately intersecting TR486 to Granny Burrel Falls at the creek crossing. Cross Panthertown Creek continuing on Great Wall TR489, passing the Boy Scout shelter on the right, meandering into the woods. After a few minutes, the wall will be visible to the left. Find the trail to the base. This takes you to the face in the neighborhood of Camp Big Green, 5.11a, left of center.

Climbing Season

Weather station 5.3 miles from here

15 Total Routes

['4 Stars',0],['3 Stars',11],['2 Stars',2],['1 Star',1],['Bomb',0]

The Classics

Mountain Project's determination of some of the classic, most popular, highest rated routes for Big Green:
Ground Control    5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13     Trad, 2 pitches, 260'   
Panthertown Knobs   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13     Trad, 2 pitches, 250'   
Campfire Girls   5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a     Trad, 2 pitches, 300'   
Paralleling   5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13     Trad, 2 pitches, 280'   
Scars on a Landscape   5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b     Trad, 2 pitches, 375'   
Grand Delusion   5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c     Trad, 1 pitch, 140'   
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Featured Route For Big Green
Paralleling P1

Paralleling 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13  NC : Big Green
P1: Climb directly up between two water grooves passing a #2 Camalot placementand five bolts to a bolted belay (a few 10 moves).P2: Continue up between the grooves, past five more bolts, and one white tricam placement, then up a steeper section to a belay on a tree ledge (sustained 10).Rap: Move Right and rappel from double bolts on the top of Jiffy Pop Queen....[more]   Browse More Classics in NC

Photos of Big Green Slideshow Add Photo
Panthertown Valley after moonrise/sunset.
Panthertown Valley after moonrise/sunset.
Jeep Gaskin taking a gander at "Live at Leads...
Jeep Gaskin taking a gander at "Live at Leads...
Looking up from the bottom of "Campfire girls...
Looking up from the bottom of "Campfire girls...
Big Green from the overlook above Wilderness Falls
Big Green from the overlook above Wilderness Falls
Jeep Gaskin rapping down "Campfire Girls"...
Jeep Gaskin rapping down "Campfire Girls"...
Big Green.
Big Green.
Pitch 1 and 2 of  Bigeminy combined.
Pitch 1 and 2 of Bigeminy combined.

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By Rob Dillon
May 27, 2009
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By Andrew Blease
From: Damascus, VA
Sep 23, 2010
Scary. Don't fall or you will get hurt.
By jeep gaskin
Jul 20, 2011
i've been rebolting also. the 1st pitch of paralleling is renewed, and the second pitch was already done so it is as safe as it will ever be. also there are now new bolts at both jiffy belays although i haven't cut out the old ones yet. i was running from rain and didn't stop to saw. they say there is no accounting for taste but i think green routes taste good.
By jeep gaskin
Sep 2, 2011
interesting tim. hard to know what sort of shape they're in just looking at them. i may crank on a couple with a wrench and see what happens. in the mean time i replaced the first pitch bolts on jiffy and the first two on ditches. it's my intention to eliminate the rest of ditches and repair the holes as best i can. it's a bit of a squeeze job and detracts from the ambiance of the routes left and right. anyone who wants to do the original start to jiffy can still do that but climbing through the first two bolts of ditches makes a more manageable run out. there is a small cam placement between the bolts so there is no danger of a grounder assuming a competent belayer. the same cannot be said for the original jiffy start. i'll renew pitch two of jiffy sometime this early fall. i'll post it.
By jeep gaskin
Sep 26, 2011
finished the jiffy renewal yesterday, but i still need to cut out the old bolts. all the new ones are good to go, both pitches. jiffy is a fine route and hopefully it will see a little more action. if you use the ditches start you'll find 10a climbing right off the bat but it mellows to 8+ to 9 till you get to bolt 3. from there all the way to the belay it's sustained 10 with a 10c crux. the second pitch is a good bit shorter. all 6 bolts occur in the first 80 feet or so. there are a couple smearing rests but no legit hand holds on the whole pitch.teetering hard 10. i use 1/2-2 1/2" cams.
By Sean Cobourn
From: Gramling, SC
Sep 29, 2011
Thanks for the replacement work Jeep, Tim and whoever! Big Green is an awesome cliff.
By jeep gaskin
Jun 29, 2012
the first pitch of campfire girls has new bolts, and if you are willing to adventure a bit on the left side of the water groove for pro, this is the best moderate pitch at big green and a good place to start to understand the expectations here. you'll need cams from 3/8" to 2". enjoy the new anchor. pitch 2 has not yet been renewed so keep that in mind.
By JohnWesely
From: Red River Gorge
Jul 8, 2012
The first pitch of Bigeminy is also really well protected and pretty easy.
By Drew Dekle
Nov 11, 2012
p-2 of Campfire Girls almost done - Jeep and I replaced the first three bolts. Old ones are still next to new ones in place now - I think there are two more higher up plus an anchor.

Climbed at BGM today - Shannon's newish route on the far left - Grand Delusion and Danger of Extinction (p-1 is truly scary) working on a second pitch.
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