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I am working on puting some stuff up on a little rock outcroping that is like 5 min from my house. I dont think annyone else really climbs here yet.

So the particular route in question would be traversing rightward and up (see pics) along the side of this outcroping but the ground also slopes up so you never end up more than 5-8 feet or so above the ground. I guess some would say it could be a boulder problem but it is too long for that and would take either 10+ pads or a person or 2 dragging pads under you the whole time and the landing is steep (would be very hard for someone to walk under you).

So how should I protect it? Can it be lead safely? Do I just TR it and run bolts down the side to stick clip before climbing and just unclip them as I go (keeping the bolts closer to each other than the distance between the climber and the ground)? Do I need to put bolts every 3 feet or so to lead it safely/ prevent decking?

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NickMartel
From Tucson, Arizona
Joined Aug 30, 2011
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Sep 21, 2011
Stabby
Bolting it is pointless; you can 'deck' w/ each clip, no matter how close. 5-10 feet is not particularly high for a boulder problem. Have a spotter follow you up with the intent of keeping you from bouncing down the hill. Mike Lane
From Centennial, CO
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Sep 21, 2011
The issue with that is the slab under 2ed half is actually like 5.3 climbing in and of itself so spotting someone would be hard and falls onto that slab would = broken ankles. Maybe it is just not posable to protect. NickMartel
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Place a bolt halfway up, stick clip it, climb away. Tyrel Fuller
From Denver, CO
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Sep 21, 2011
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Sep 21, 2011
boulder it. use the crack in the middle of the image as protection for the spotter. leave them on a fixed line and a grigri so they can adjust accordingly. do not bolt it. or just climb it at an R/X rating. you could also try and find natural pro to keep you from tumbling to far down the hill. Ian Cavanaugh
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Sep 21, 2011
Ian Cavanaugh wrote:
. you could also try and find natural pro to keep you from tumbling to far down the hill.

But what if he just has bolts!?
J.J
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Sep 21, 2011
it looks like there are plenty of options for natural pro
natural pro
natural pro


just sling this cactus
berl
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Sep 21, 2011
Bolts are not the answer they only give you cancer.

Actually it might be possible to rig two top ropes and have your belayer use a double rope device.

What ever you do it should be done with the least number of bolts possible IMO.

Please think before you drill, not against drilling in general just opposed to over doing it.

Get creative check out some of the grit stone vids. Those Brits know how to think outside the box. Rather then the typical instant gratification drill baby drill style. IMO it's far more rewarding that way.
Tim McCabe
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Sep 21, 2011
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Looks there are a couple of spots that could take nuts. Or you could just boulder it and not fall. Keyan P
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Sep 21, 2011
berl wrote:
just sling this cactus

Post of the month? Slow clap.
Boissal
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Sep 22, 2011
so the "natural pro" spot circled in red is actually a compleatly loose mess that would get cleaned off IF i were to try to do this line but I think I am leaning towards passing on it. NickMartel
From Tucson, Arizona
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Sep 22, 2011
Or as someone suggested setting it up with a TR anchor on each end and belaying with 2 ropes. NickMartel
From Tucson, Arizona
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Set up a rope fixed at both ends diagonally up the bit you want to climb and use any of the normal top-rope soloing methods (Shunt, Ascender or whatever). Jim Titt
From Germany
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Sep 22, 2011
NickMartel wrote:
so the "natural pro" spot circled in red is actually a compleatly loose mess that would get cleaned off IF i were to try to do this line but I think I am leaning towards passing on it.

So you're saying the cactus isn't bomber?

Definetely don't bolt this...
J.J
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Nov 29, 2011
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Just but bolts every three feet or so.....that should do it. Andrew Plagens
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Nov 29, 2011
Don't waste bolts in the Tucson Mountains. Larry
From SoAZ
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Nov 29, 2011
Larry wrote:
Don't waste bolts in the Tucson Mountains.


An excellent point.
Tim McCabe
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