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By Rob Gordon
From Hollywood, CA
Oct 17, 2012
Tough Mantle Problem.  Haven't sent yet...

In my experience, most girls who are vocal about wanting to try climbing really mean they want to 3rd class something. Preferably roped up. Preferably not exposed, long, or particularly hard. Then they want you to take some pictures of them at the top. Then they want to get brunch and/or margaritas.

This is not meant to be sexist by any means. Just my experience. Oddly enough, I've found that girls who are less than thrilled at going climbing often do better.

Just take the girl to a bar. Your climbing stories will be more interesting to her after she's drunk. Or at least you won't notice she isn't listening if you are drunk.


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By Brent Apgar
From Out of the Loop
Oct 17, 2012
Me and Spearhead

So many truths in this thread. But got to agree w/ the majority that there is no such thing as a "best route to take a non climbing date on".


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By Tevis Blom
Oct 18, 2012

Scott and Sorden, funny stuff!

Don't ever take a date climbing [multi-pitch] unless he/she can lead the climb.
In my experience, the ladies don't like being told what to do; in an emergency situation that is exactly what you will have to do.

Otherwise just TR. Or go inside, getting dropped on a padded floor doesn't hurt as much (ask me how I know!)


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By Ian Stewart
Oct 18, 2012

"Not enough time post work for a flatiron"

What time do you get off work? Sunset is about 6:15pm now, so assuming you get off at 5 or so that doesn't really leave much time for anything...

But I'll second what everybody has said. If you really want to climb, go to the gym where it's bright, easy, warm, and she can wear something cute (a women's mood is directly related to how good she thinks she looks). Unless you both really want to be there, multi-pitch is horrible for a date. You're barely around each other, mostly just yelling climbing shit to each other, she'll probably get your gear stuck while cleaning, and by the end of it you'll both be grumpy.


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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Oct 18, 2012
Bocan

I'd take her to the gym if she really wants to climb. That way you can see if she's safe enough to belay you and it will give her that measure of success aka "trust" that Sorden was talking about.

The gym is usually my litmus test for "climbers" I know that just have shoes. Plus then you can get beers like right afterwards.


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By Kenan
Oct 18, 2012
Shelf Rd

Ian Stewart wrote:
"Not enough time post work for a flatiron" What time do you get off work? Sunset is about 6:15pm now, so assuming you get off at 5 or so that doesn't really leave much time for anything...


+1

I'd say all you can get in 'after work' right now (assuming normal work hours) would be a super fast single-pitch route. And in about 2 weeks the clocks will go back an hour and it will be pitch dark at 5pm, so even that will be hopeless.

fossana wrote:
Why is there an automatic assumption that germsauce's date is going to be scared shitless? It's not 1950 and it is Boulder. Even before I started climbing I would have been far more impressed with someone that took me climbing instead of the usual wine and dine thing. Maybe she's OK with exposure.


I do relate to what fossana said though... this isn't 1950 and there are plenty of adventurous women in Boulder. So assuming she's going to be scared to death by her first climbing experience is a bit much. Having said that, multipitch might be pushing your luck. Feel her out (no pun intended) on a single-pitch route first.

I'd vote for East Slab on Dome Rock. Super close to town, can be done as 1 long pitch (with belay at top), easy climbing (but still exciting for a newcomer), South/Southwest facing (sunny), and leads to a nice summit-esque spot to view the sunset with an easy hike down. ...could easily stash a bottle of wine somewhere up there too.

Have fun!


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By brat
Oct 18, 2012
Celebrating on Intersection Rock, JTree.

You all sure aren't giving this girl much credit.


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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Oct 18, 2012
Colonel Mustard

wendy weiss wrote:
You're going to do this after work? It gets dark and cold pretty early now. Cold is bad. Very bad. How 'bout the gym?


That's my feeling too. Outdoor climbing isn't the most intuitive thing, unlike gym climbing.

This impress her with your outdoor schtick is probably gonna backfire all over the OP's face. She won't give a shit about the date when she's flailing and cold, wondering how the hell she got talked into this situation.

Who knows, it could work. The whole make somebody into a climber routine usually doesn't though.


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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Oct 18, 2012
Bocan

brat wrote:
You all sure aren't giving this girl much credit.


Well having shoes doesn't make you a climber, just like having nunchucks doesn't make me a ninja.

Either way I wouldn't recommend taking a beginner out on a 5.9 mulitpitch whether male OR female. I've taken 3 out so I could have a belayer, but a threesome isn't much of a first date.


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By Sir Wanksalot
From County Jail
Oct 18, 2012

Colonel Mustard wrote:
The whole make somebody into a climber routine usually doesn't though.


+1


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By Stich
From Colorado Springs, Colorado
Oct 18, 2012
Coffee after freezing our asses off near James Peak.

I got this girl to go climbing with me. Srsly!


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By Robert D.
From Boulder, CO
Oct 18, 2012
Yargh, Pirate Rob do be in Yosemite

Climbing huh? McKalya Maroney was not impressed.

McKalya Maroney is not impressed by climbing
McKalya Maroney is not impressed by climbing


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By fossana
From Bishop, CA
Oct 18, 2012
downclimb off the First Flatiron <br />photo by TooTallTim

Randy W. wrote:
+1


+1
Goes for both genders; not worth the effort IMO.


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By Medic741
From Pittsford, New York
Oct 19, 2012
When I was a bum at Frey

Had a 'serious' girlfriend. Bought her climbing shoes, rain pants, rain jacket, boots, harness, chalk bag, montbell puffy, motorcycle helmet, gloves.

C$&@ broke up 3 weeks after coming home from 7 months living in South America (dating ~3 yrs). . And I lost a bunch of gear with broken heart.

Point is...
Seriously be careful out there. If you get her ANYTHING it's 'my spares that you can borrow' not here are some expensive articles.

Picking a girl up with a climbing date sucks. Go to a gym. If they turn out to be bitchy and loud you're A) not pissing off all the other climbers B) if they're nuts you're not as committed C) less threatening for her. If she likes it and you can stand her take her out and proceed with the big wall fun times.


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By iceman777
From Colorado Springs
Oct 19, 2012
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the NOT buying expensive shit thing is a winner ! ding ding ding ding!!!!

Get her in the sheets first or at least be FWB's

Get her to open her legs before you open your wallet!!!!

Busting a nut takes the sting out of spending money!!!!


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By Scott McMahon
From Boulder, CO
Oct 19, 2012
Bocan

Medic741 wrote:
Had a 'serious' girlfriend. Bought her climbing shoes, rain pants, rain jacket, boots, harness, chalk bag, montbell puffy, motorcycle helmet, gloves. C$&@ broke up 3 weeks after coming home from 7 months living in South America (dating ~3 yrs). . And I lost a bunch of gear with broken heart. Point is... Seriously be careful out there. If you get her ANYTHING it's 'my spares that you can borrow' not here are some expensive articles.


Haha yeah that's a tangent, but I learned that on the last GF. I'm sure her new BF will admire all the cool sh*t she has. Wish I would have kept that money. :oP


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By ErikaNW
Oct 19, 2012
Rapping off the Matron October, 2010

A story from the GF's perspective....

25 years ago my BF (now husband of 18 yrs) wanted me to get into climbing. I had lots of backpacking and class 3 hiking experience,was a good athlete, owned shoes (ha ha - is that the measure?), had done a bit of bouldering and thought it would be 'super fun'!

So his partner at the time suggested Calypso would be a *perfect* first outing for me..... I think about halfway up P1, when I was struggling to remove a nut, I looked down and suddenly realized I was actually terrified of heights. After much back and forth ('I don't think I can do this...' 'You're doing great, just keep going!'), and I actually think he was out of sight at the belay as I recall, he ended up lowering me. At which point we had to borrow a rope from another party so he could rap off... Don't do anything longer than 1/2 a rope length! :)

It was pretty much a horrible experience for both of us, and 8 years went by before I went climbing again. We have a great climbing partnership now, and laugh a lot about that first climb, but it took awhile for us to get there.

I would second Calypso as being a poor choice for a 1st multi-pitch (it's a lot more polished now than it was 25 years ago too!), and would also second multi-pitch in general as being bad for a 1st 'date climb'. For one thing - as an inexperienced follower, a lot of my anxiety came from not realizing my BF was climbing well below his limit, therefore it seemed scary and dangerous to me, and I wondered what I would do if he was hurt as I recognized that I was holding a lot of responsibility as the second.

Keep it relaxed, keep it fun, and remember what seems simple and low stress to you may not feel that way to her. Or I might be underestimating the girl and I was just a major wuss (quite possible!).


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By germsauce
Oct 19, 2012
Hippos kill people

You go looking for a route suggestion and get relationship advice from a bunch of lonely dirtbags and dirt-bagguettes (?), only on MP, and completely worth it!

Ended up making sushi instead.


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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Oct 19, 2012
Colonel Mustard

germsauce wrote:
You go looking for a route suggestion and get relationship advice from a bunch of lonely dirtbags and dirt-bagguettes (?), only on MP, and completely worth it! Ended up making sushi instead.


You finally wised up. Good choice.

Nope. Not lonely. Or a dirtbag.

I think it went well with the thread drift, as you should have been able to figure out a route on your own to begin with.


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By will smith
From boulder
Oct 19, 2012

Princess Mia wrote:
I'm telling you: don't climb, get the goodies and a blanket and find a private place somewhere, where your amorous attempts will not be interrupted by other noobs thrashing on the same 5.6......


I think I'd go with the Princess, that way you can see if she really is athletic, if that works take her climbing another day.


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By Drew McLean
From Colorado
Oct 19, 2012
Summit shot

Don't forget your jimmy hats


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By Steve M
From MN
Oct 19, 2012

germsauce wrote:
Ended up making sushi instead.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?


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By Princess Mia
From Vail
Oct 19, 2012
Chillin' at City of Rocks

germsauce wrote:
Ended up making sushi instead.


Good idea!!!! Sushi has some very special properties, similar to eating raw oysters.......
If that didn't work, well then look elsewhere......


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By Tevis Blom
Oct 21, 2012

Weird to see a thread put to such positive use!
Way to go germ, sushi is a great idea.
Bouldering gym is fun too for down the road en route to multi-pitch, then you don't have to worry about rope skills or getting dropped.


If you do take her climbing, take a third party, someone you trust as a leader. Girlfriends have a hard time learning from boyfriends. For some reason, 15+ years of rope skills/skiing skills/backpacking skills/etc. goes out the door and you will have to explain yourself and argue every time you tell her what needs to be done.
As the boyfriend you are automatically semi-retarded in your girl's eyes, so your experience means nothing to her. For some reason she will listen eagerly to anyone else offering advice (stranger at next climb over, random internet info, your buddy). So bring someone you trust and have them give advice. If something fouls it will not be your fault, but a team experience to learn from.
Sounds a bit misogynistic, but it has played out so many times it is mind boggling.


Climbing is like fishing. Way more fun with your bros.


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By Colonel Mustard
From Reno, NV
Oct 21, 2012
Colonel Mustard

Princess Mia wrote:
Good idea!!!! Sushi has some very special properties, similar to eating raw oysters....... If that didn't work, well then look elsewhere......


Is that why I always wind up with my d in the hand roll?

In NV we have all these all you can eat sushi places. The quality is actually not as bad as you think it would be. But it's a horrible idea in the end, you feel like a shark took a shit in your belly. Hardly love makin times.


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