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Jul 10, 2013
so lets hear it. what is everyone's favorite quick draw to use? skierhs
Joined May 29, 2013
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Jul 10, 2013
tanuki
blackdiamondequipment.com/en/c... NC Rock Climber
From The Oven, AKA Phoenix
Joined Dec 6, 2009
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Jul 10, 2013
Wonderstuff
NC Rock Climber wrote:


+1

Truth is any draw made today is good, but these are super nice! I love them.

Any full size draw with a keylock bolt end biner and wire-gate rope end is almost just as good. Not as pretty looking or smooth feeling, but functionally just as good.
dnoB ekiM
Joined Aug 20, 2009
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Jul 10, 2013
me
Petzl sprits or Petzl ange with the large carabiner on the rope end. Also all petzl lockers seem to far better than any others on the market in my opinion. Rob Selter
From running springs Ca
Joined Feb 11, 2012
163 points
Jul 10, 2013
Berlin
Wild Country Heliums. Jay Eggleston
From Denver
Joined Feb 5, 2003
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Jul 10, 2013
City of Rocks
I think those newer BDs with the nifty finger shelf on the spine look great. But I've never used them, or touched one. :p

Really though, most of us have probably mostly used the ones we own and haven't owned that many sets (esp from the current offerings). Maybe you can buy them all and let us know!

I climb on Heliums and the Petzl anges - for sport climbing they both have made me happy and I haven't died. The anges bolt side biner is a mini, so if the bolt is just out of reach, it has less reach. Just sayn'...
Hiro
From Colorado
Joined Apr 2, 2012
391 points
Jul 11, 2013
Lost in the Sun pitch 2
Petzl Spirits Travis Dustin
From Hollis, NH
Joined Jan 8, 2012
1,646 points
Jul 11, 2013
Mammut Moses, extremely light with good gate action. Jaren Watson
From Rexburg, Idaho
Joined May 30, 2010
1,179 points
Jul 11, 2013
me
Mammut trad slings with two helium wire biners. Love the heliums btw: nice and wide gate opening and super light, non catch too! I don't remember when I climbed pure a sport route last. I switched to those when I got my rack, never went back. I used to have PETZL dogbones...with rubber thingies on them... Ellenore Zimmerman
Joined May 25, 2013
75 points
Jul 11, 2013
Whatever I can get my desperate, filthy thieving mitts on at Easter Rock. Charles Vernon
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Jan 1, 2001
2,921 points
Jul 11, 2013
+1 Petzl Spirit! I wouldn't buy anything else nor would I steal a bunch of draws off a route that I knew someone left only due to dangerous lightning conditions. I was with James that evening and the next morning and let's just say the culprit is lucky they weren't my draws. We sent our project the next day anyway and had a hell of a 4th of July! Jimmy Burckhard
From Fort Collins, CO
Joined Sep 9, 2009
34 points
Jul 11, 2013
Purely sport climbing +1 for the BD livewires, trad routes I use BD hoodwires Brennen T
From Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Joined Jul 29, 2012
368 points
Jul 11, 2013
anything me or my partner have on us at the time ...

the brand is irrelevant for whadduh we climb ... ive never climbed harder because of a particular draw brand or model

;)
bearbreeder
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Jul 11, 2013
OMG, I winz!!!
I really like the BD livewires. I even bought some. Chris Plesko
From Westminster, CO
Joined Oct 18, 2007
560 points
Administrator
Jul 11, 2013
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.
i think the new petzl spirit draws suck. wayyyy too stiff. i have several sets of draws, and my favorite is probably bent and straight gate dynatrons with a regular length standard petzl (old) bone. slim
Joined Dec 1, 2004
2,071 points
Jul 11, 2013
I really like the Petzl Ange w/ the small biner on the wall side and large biner on the rope side. Super easy to clip and clean. I disagree that they're too stiff, too. The dogbone is definitely stiff but there's a large loop on the wall side that lets the whole thing move around while maintaining the proper rope side biner orientation.

I also had some WC Nitro QDs. I love the biners but the dogbones suck IMHO. The rubber grommet broke on all of them within two years of light use. I replaced the bone with the new Petzl one (same as the Ange) and am pretty stoked with that setup, too.
wfscot
From Boulder, CO
Joined Apr 19, 2013
40 points
Jul 11, 2013
One of my first trad climbs, Ooga Chocka at Crowde...
petzl.com/us/outdoor/non-locki...

the new spirits
sanz
From Raleigh, NC
Joined Nov 7, 2011
279 points
Jul 11, 2013
The DMM alpha sport QuickDraw is awesome. clipping them is like butta Jsimpson
Joined Sep 16, 2011
4 points
Jul 11, 2013
slopey
Grivel Alpha ... duh! Jeremy Hand
Joined Feb 24, 2012
109 points
Jul 11, 2013
Top of pear buttress
BD quicksilvers, smoothest action Ive ever felt. mattharon
Joined Apr 11, 2011
216 points
Jul 14, 2013
Wonderstuff
slim wrote:
i think the new petzl spirit draws suck. wayyyy too stiff.



Agree, the old express dogbones were the best on the market for the last 20 years.

I even replaced the bones on my livewires (also way too stiff...even the long ones)with the petzl express (old style) bones. The new express bones are a downgrade in the design.
dnoB ekiM
Joined Aug 20, 2009
1,110 points
Jul 14, 2013
Little Ange and big Ange with the new white Petzl dogbones. Don't really care for the skinny new FINESSE slings. mrbiscoop
Joined Jun 17, 2006
42 points
Jul 15, 2013
Climbing in Leavenworth, WA.
dnoB ekiM wrote:
Agree, the old express dogbones were the best on the market for the last 20 years. I even replaced the bones on my livewires (also way too stiff...even the long ones)with the petzl express (old style) bones. The new express bones are a downgrade in the design.


Won't they soften up a bit with use?
jordand
From Seattle, WA
Joined May 21, 2012
84 points
Administrator
Jul 15, 2013
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.
supposedly they designed them to be stiff, for easier clipping. unfortunately it makes them more prone to jamming the biner sideways in the bolt hanger. not exactly comforting to look down and see this... slim
Joined Dec 1, 2004
2,071 points
Aug 20, 2013
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Ovals on tied webbing. Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Joined Oct 13, 2002
2,394 points
Aug 20, 2013
Just in case the two big belay anchors aren't obvi...
Locker wrote:
Ovals on tied webbing.


Ha! I used to have a whole rack of those. Now I use BD wiregates on whatever dogbone sling I can get for a decent price.
Peter Jackson
From Rumney, NH
Joined Aug 9, 2010
590 points


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