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By skierhs
Jul 10, 2013
so lets hear it. what is everyone's favorite quick draw to use?

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By NC Rock Climber
From The Oven, AKA Phoenix
Jul 10, 2013
tanuki
blackdiamondequipment.com/en/c...

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By dnoB ekiM
Jul 10, 2013
Wonderstuff
NC Rock Climber wrote:


+1

Truth is any draw made today is good, but these are super nice! I love them.

Any full size draw with a keylock bolt end biner and wire-gate rope end is almost just as good. Not as pretty looking or smooth feeling, but functionally just as good.

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By Rob Selter
From running springs Ca
Jul 10, 2013
me
Petzl sprits or Petzl ange with the large carabiner on the rope end. Also all petzl lockers seem to far better than any others on the market in my opinion.

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By Jay Eggleston
From Denver
Jul 10, 2013
Berlin
Wild Country Heliums.

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By Hiro
From Boulder, CO
Jul 10, 2013
Ouray Ice Park <br />Pick o' the Vic?
I think those newer BDs with the nifty finger shelf on the spine look great. But I've never used them, or touched one. :p

Really though, most of us have probably mostly used the ones we own and haven't owned that many sets (esp from the current offerings). Maybe you can buy them all and let us know!

I climb on Heliums and the Petzl anges - for sport climbing they both have made me happy and I haven't died. The anges bolt side biner is a mini, so if the bolt is just out of reach, it has less reach. Just sayn'...

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By bruno-cx
Jul 11, 2013
shirtless wonder
blackdiamondequipment.com/en/c...

livewire, ay better than anything else.

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By Travis Dustin
From Hollis, NH
Jul 11, 2013
NH
Petzl Spirits

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By Jaren Watson
From Rexburg, Idaho
Jul 11, 2013
Mammut Moses, extremely light with good gate action.

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By Ellenore Zimmerman
Jul 11, 2013
me
Mammut trad slings with two helium wire biners. Love the heliums btw: nice and wide gate opening and super light, non catch too! I don't remember when I climbed pure a sport route last. I switched to those when I got my rack, never went back. I used to have PETZL dogbones...with rubber thingies on them...

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By Charles Vernon
From Tucson, AZ
Jul 11, 2013
Whatever I can get my desperate, filthy thieving mitts on at Easter Rock.

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By Jimmy Burckhard
From Fort Collins, CO
Jul 11, 2013
+1 Petzl Spirit! I wouldn't buy anything else nor would I steal a bunch of draws off a route that I knew someone left only due to dangerous lightning conditions. I was with James that evening and the next morning and let's just say the culprit is lucky they weren't my draws. We sent our project the next day anyway and had a hell of a 4th of July!

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By John M Ross
From Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Jul 11, 2013
Purely sport climbing +1 for the BD livewires, trad routes I use BD hoodwires

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By bearbreeder
Jul 11, 2013
anything me or my partner have on us at the time ...

the brand is irrelevant for whadduh we climb ... ive never climbed harder because of a particular draw brand or model

;)

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By Chris Plesko
From Westminster, CO
Jul 11, 2013
OMG, I winz!!!
I really like the BD livewires. I even bought some.

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By slim
Administrator
Jul 11, 2013
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.
i think the new petzl spirit draws suck. wayyyy too stiff. i have several sets of draws, and my favorite is probably bent and straight gate dynatrons with a regular length standard petzl (old) bone.

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By wfscot
From Boulder, CO
Jul 11, 2013
I really like the Petzl Ange w/ the small biner on the wall side and large biner on the rope side. Super easy to clip and clean. I disagree that they're too stiff, too. The dogbone is definitely stiff but there's a large loop on the wall side that lets the whole thing move around while maintaining the proper rope side biner orientation.

I also had some WC Nitro QDs. I love the biners but the dogbones suck IMHO. The rubber grommet broke on all of them within two years of light use. I replaced the bone with the new Petzl one (same as the Ange) and am pretty stoked with that setup, too.

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By sanz
From Raleigh, NC
Jul 11, 2013
One of my first trad leads, on Ooga Chocka at Crowder's Mountain.
petzl.com/us/outdoor/non-locki...

the new spirits

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By Jsimpson
Jul 11, 2013
The DMM alpha sport QuickDraw is awesome. clipping them is like butta

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By Jeremy Hand
Jul 11, 2013
slopey
Grivel Alpha ... duh!

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By Matty H
Jul 11, 2013
Top of pear buttress
BD quicksilvers, smoothest action Ive ever felt.

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By dnoB ekiM
Jul 14, 2013
Wonderstuff
slim wrote:
i think the new petzl spirit draws suck. wayyyy too stiff.



Agree, the old express dogbones were the best on the market for the last 20 years.

I even replaced the bones on my livewires (also way too stiff...even the long ones)with the petzl express (old style) bones. The new express bones are a downgrade in the design.

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By mrbiscoop
Jul 14, 2013
Little Ange and big Ange with the new white Petzl dogbones. Don't really care for the skinny new FINESSE slings.

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By jordand
From Seattle, WA
Jul 15, 2013
Climbing in Leavenworth, WA.
dnoB ekiM wrote:
Agree, the old express dogbones were the best on the market for the last 20 years. I even replaced the bones on my livewires (also way too stiff...even the long ones)with the petzl express (old style) bones. The new express bones are a downgrade in the design.


Won't they soften up a bit with use?

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By slim
Administrator
Jul 15, 2013
tomato, tomotto, kill mike amato.
supposedly they designed them to be stiff, for easier clipping. unfortunately it makes them more prone to jamming the biner sideways in the bolt hanger. not exactly comforting to look down and see this...

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By Locker
From Yucca Valley, CA
Aug 20, 2013
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Ovals on tied webbing.

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