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Apr 11, 2014
Upper pitches on Crescent Tower, Bugaboos.
Howdy Folks,

I will be traveling through Jasper and Banff National Parks in early to mid July, with our final destination being the Bugaboos. What guidebook(s) would you suggest given our rough literary? Any routes, books and/or additional suggestions/information would be greatly appreciated.

NOTE: We are not looking to climb ice. Our preference is multi-pitch trad climbing; moderate snow approaches are not an issue.

Thanks in advance!
Jonathan Dull
From Boone, NC
Joined Mar 2, 2012
429 points
Apr 11, 2014
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this has always been a life goal for me! enjoy it, wish I had information to give. I'd love to hear about your travels. happy climbing. William Rhyne
From Casper, Wyoming
Joined Sep 14, 2011
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Apr 11, 2014
The Elaho guide, bar none. Dobson
From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
187 points
Apr 14, 2014
For the non-Bugs stuff, I'd look at Canadian Rock: Select Climbs of the West. As a local, I find that it doesn't cover any area with enough detail so I refer to the area specific guide books but for a quick trip through the Rockies, it covers a large area and it'll have most of the interesting climbs. If you're going to be spending your time mostly around Banff, then Banff Rock is better but you'll miss out on the goodies in Jasper, Revelstoke and Canmore. moyboy
Joined Mar 18, 2014
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Apr 17, 2014
Upper pitches on Crescent Tower, Bugaboos.
bugs beta bump! Jonathan Dull
From Boone, NC
Joined Mar 2, 2012
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Apr 17, 2014
It would be helpful to know more about what you're looking for. Almost every climb in the Bugs fits the "multi-pitch trad" label, and every one I've done was just incredible.

I can seriously recommend anything that catches your eye on the Bugaboos. However, while you're driving through Jasper, check out the East Ridge of Edith Cavell. It's a great time.
Edith Cavell
Edith Cavell
Dobson
From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
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Apr 17, 2014
Stairway to Heaven
Dougherty's Selected Alpine Climbs includes some good rock routes that aren't described anywhere else. But make local inquiries first, it's known as the "Liar's Guide" or "Selected Alpine Sandbags" for good reason. And be very careful about any routes that involve glacier travel, the book is 25 years old and the glaciers have changed a lot in the meantime. Martin le Roux
From Superior, CO
Joined Jul 16, 2003
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Apr 17, 2014
For the Bugs: Atkinson/ Piche Bugaboos Climber's Guide. Definitely the best for that zone. Dylan Cousins
Joined Apr 7, 2010
144 points
Apr 18, 2014
Yes, the "book of lies" is great for the Rockies, but it's really hard to find in the States. Dobson
From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
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Apr 18, 2014
For two of the guidebooks mentioned (bugs and canadian rock)

highcol.ca/books/

east of banff is Genereux Ghost Rock
David.Jones
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Apr 22, 2014
Upper pitches on Crescent Tower, Bugaboos.
Thanks for the recommendations so far guys. I'll definitely have to check out those guides.

Dobson, you're right, I guess "multi-pitch trad" doesn't really narrow it down that much. After a little browsing on Mountain Project and Summit Post a couple climbs that caught my eye and seem to fit the bill were the following:

summitpost.org/escargot-corner...
dowclimbing.com/GrandSentinel....

Both of those seem like good quality lines with reasonable approaches. We will be climbing in a party of three some that's also something to consider.

The East Ridge of Edith Cavell definitely looks amazing! It also sounds like a really long day. We do plan on doing some summit hikes and scrambles too while in the area (i.e. Mt. Temple).

Thanks again!
Jonathan Dull
From Boone, NC
Joined Mar 2, 2012
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Apr 22, 2014
Jonathan Dull wrote:
Thanks for the recommendations so far guys. I'll definitely have to check out those guides. Dobson, you're right, I guess "multi-pitch trad" doesn't really narrow it down that much. After a little browsing on Mountain Project and Summit Post a couple climbs that caught my eye and seem to fit the bill were the following: summitpost.org/escargot-corner... dowclimbing.com/GrandSentinel.... Both of those seem like good quality lines with reasonable approaches. We will be climbing in a party of three some that's also something to consider. The East Ridge of Edith Cavell definitely looks amazing! It also sounds like a really long day. We do plan on doing some summit hikes and scrambles too while in the area (i.e. Mt. Temple). Thanks again!


It's a long day, but not super endurance crazy. We did another big climb two days after.


Looking at the time stamps of the photos, we got started in the morning about 7am. We were well established on the ridge in another hour. We finished the easy half by ten. The technical half was extraordinarily icy which slowed us down a bit, and put us on the summit at 3:30. We descended the long way off the back (and got lost) and reached flatland before 7. That puts the mountain itself at less than twelve hours for total Rockies noobs. The hike back sucked, but it wasn't hard.

If I did it in happy rock-climby conditions, I'd definitely reverse the route. It would be faster, easier, and more fun.
Dobson
From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
187 points
Apr 23, 2014
Upper pitches on Crescent Tower, Bugaboos.
Dobson wrote:
We did another big climb two days after. The technical half was extraordinarily icy which slowed us down a bit, and put us on the summit at 3:30. .


Which other climb did you do? Would you recommend it?

And hopefully the route/approach is in good condition once we arrive. We will not be equipped to climb any technical ice.
Jonathan Dull
From Boone, NC
Joined Mar 2, 2012
429 points
Apr 23, 2014
Jonathan Dull wrote:
Which other climb did you do? Would you recommend it? And hopefully the route/approach is in good condition once we arrive. We will not be equipped to climb any technical ice.


We did the Skyladder on Andromeda and it was beautiful. The "Book of Lies" calls it Grade II, (no technical grade), which I think is hilarious. I can't recommend it if you aren't ready for steep snow and (not steep) ice. The only rock we encountered was some terrible and kinda scary fourth-class shale.


Skyladder
Skyladder


It's hard to compare the climbing in the Rockies to that in the Bugaboos. The Bugs feel like high quality trad climbing that happens to be in a beautiful alpine environment. Everything I've done in the Rockies was a full-on mountaineering adventure requiring all the skills I had in my arsenal. They're both great climbing destinations, just for completely different reasons.
Dobson
From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
187 points
Apr 24, 2014
Upper pitches on Crescent Tower, Bugaboos.
rei.com/product/704241/bugaboo...

Has anyone had experience with this guide? I'm going to purchase the ones already suggested, however this is the only one at REI and I have several gift cards I could cover this with. Is it worth it?
Jonathan Dull
From Boone, NC
Joined Mar 2, 2012
429 points
Apr 24, 2014
+1 for Atkinson/Piche. Detailed. Multiple route photos and topos for the major routes. Lots of routes. Good descriptions. Folks defaulted to this guide from the green guide when we were up there. Gargano
From Oakland, CA
Joined Jan 4, 2011
1,190 points
Apr 24, 2014
Jonathan Dull wrote:
rei.com/product/704241/bugaboo... Has anyone had experience with this guide? I'm going to purchase the ones already suggested, however this is the only one at REI and I have several gift cards I could cover this with. Is it worth it?


If you are going to get the Elaho (Atkinson/Piche) guide, there's no reason to have anything else for the Bugaboos. It sets a high standard for quality in an alpine guide.
Dobson
From Butte, MT
Joined Oct 20, 2011
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