www.climbing.com/route/climberville/

how far are smith and trout creek from downtown bend? any idea of the population of bend? any idea if there are any colleges or universities? any idea how many high schools there are there?


thanks

p.s. notice how the mormons won't leave the mormon thing alone, they'll beat that dead horse over and over even though more than one has already addressed the statements fully: living there is the same insipid, overwhelming, overbearing experience in my opinion... it is like all of them are that annoying parent that thinks their kid is special and awesome and that whatever they do you should do too... more importantly and pertinent: it is not a year-round climbing town and i think that's what we're trying to pin down here...

The SLC always gets a bad rap. Salt Lake city (proper) actually has more non-mormons than mormons. It becomes really bad when you start etching your way away from the city...West Jordon, South Jordon, Sandy ect... SLC has great art (if you know where to look) & a great music scene. The outdoor culture, especially in places like the Avenues & Sugarhouse, is great...Don't let people who think they 'know' about the mormon & utah culture disuade you from a great city...

Im going to throw in Manitou and westside Colorado Springs, mostly because I enjoy the commentary from the euro-hatchback, prana wearing, urban hipster crowd slag what a horrible, provincial, plebian, republican, backwater the area is.

Some truth to that, urban culture is pretty lacking compared to Denver-Boulder. But, there is year round rock climbing at Turkey, Shelf, hidden crags on Pikes Peak, quality mixed and ice, and uncrowded mountain biking-running trails. Mexican food and local breweries 'taint bad either.

Keene ny? Sorry I grew up in the area and it would be a horror show finding work that pays. It's freezing from the end of oct through march. Then you get heavy rains and bugs. The climbing is good but if I were making any suggestion for ny I would say New Paltz NY. They have great climbing easy access and an actual social scene. Stay away from NY if you wanna climb tons

Check out SoCal. The weather is usually dry and you can plan on climbing most any day you have off of work. Joshua Tree, Thaquitz, Suicide and count less sport climbing and bouldering areas near by. Lot of peps but not so many climber per capita. If you can climb during the week you may not see anyone else on the rock. Also the beach is fairly close if you surf. Down side not much ice