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By Burk S.
From Lebanon, Oregon
Jul 5, 2012

Hi friends,

My wife and I take an annual climbing trip (April), but this year we are accompanied by our firstborn. Does anyone know of a place that is "child friendly", meaning a place where the approaches are easy and the distances are fairly short. We have been to Smith Rocks, Joshua Tree and Bishop and are wanting to try some place new. We want to stick on the western half of the US. We also want a good mix of easy to moderate climbing (lots of routes in the 5.7 to 5.10 range) with bouldering and trad/sport. Any thoughts? Thank you!


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By Unassigned User
Jul 5, 2012

How hard does your child climb?

I heard Tahquitz is great for newborns, but not n00bs.


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By BackCountry
From West Point, UT
Jul 5, 2012
Whaaaat?

Maple Canyon & Triassic.


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By Roger Harris
From Boulder, CO
Jul 5, 2012
Roger Harris belaying at Trash Can Rock

Take a look at Hartman Rocks near Gunnison. High clearance vehicle is preferred.

www.mountainproject.com/v/hartman-rocks/105744394


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By BurtMachlan
Jul 5, 2012

This post violated Rule #1. It has been removed by Mountain Project.


By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jul 5, 2012

1/2 dome, snake dike is where i'd go if i had a kid.


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By APBT1976
Jul 5, 2012
Black Dike 12/25/11

BurtMachlan wrote:
Leave your baby at home. No wants to listen to your baby crying when they are trying to hear their boom box.


Insert image of smoking baby with barking dog and boom box here.

I kid i kid sorry..


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By Ian Stewart
Jul 5, 2012

Bouldering I could possibly understand, but how could you possibly do any sort of trad climbing with a 9mo old baby around? I'm assuming it's just the two of you, so if there's one person climbing and one person belaying, who's watching the baby? I see plenty of people hike many-mile hikes with babies, so I can't imagine the approach being the issue as much as the climbing itself.

Leaving the kid at home with family or friends seems like the best option to me.


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jul 5, 2012

Just pour a little whiskey or something in your kids bottle when you're ready to send, that'll quieten him/her down. Then turn your boom box down to between three and five for the vol and tie your dog to the nearest tree, you're all set.


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By Fat Dad
From Los Angeles, CA
Jul 5, 2012

Josh would be super convenient but be mindful that there have been a couple of instances of young children/newborns being hit and seriously injured by rockfall. One incident happened at Church Bowl in the Valley, which isn't a hotspot for rockfall. It was bad though. Although I've been jonesing to get out, since hearing of that I've been leery of bringing little ones to the crags. Also, with Josh, watch out for the cholla cactus. One brush with that your kid will be messed up.

Having said that, I've seen a couple hiking into the Gorge with a pack and play (play pen). Kid puts around in the playpen while mom and dad belay, but maybe keep it well away from the crag. Think half pitch with a short, flat approach, or just go hiking with your kid.


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By SMR
Jul 5, 2012

Maple, although, on the kid-friendly side will likely be too cold and/or snowy in April.
Southern Utah has a number of crags and likely some will fit the requirements you seek, for example Black and Tan, Kelly's rock.


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By BackCountry
From West Point, UT
Jul 5, 2012
Whaaaat?

My son is 22 months old now and we just barely started climbing routes again (when it's just us three). For the last couple years it has been much easier and enjoyable to climb boulders, for all the obvious reasons.


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By mitchy
From nunya gotdamn business.
Jul 5, 2012

Dude, I told ya how to do it already. Slip a little Kaklua in with the milk, White Russian, while your setting up. When your kid is nice and buzzed, bundle his little ass up and secure with a sling, clip the sling on the dog collar and tie the dog to a tree. Works like a charm, at least for a buddy of mine, kid never cries and the dog is nice and chill


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By Burk S.
From Lebanon, Oregon
Jul 17, 2012

Thanks for the replies. I think I will check out Maple some more. What about Red Rocks? I know flights into Vegas are pretty cheap.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jul 17, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

BurtMachlan wrote:
Leave your baby at home. No wants to listen to your baby crying when they are trying to hear their boom box.


Aww, come on mods! I genuinely don't think Burt was being a jerk here. It's a pretty humorous comment and not really at anyone's expense. Bravo, Burt.


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By chrisIerickson
From Salt Lake, UT
Jul 17, 2012

A few places we've liked (with our kids):

City of Rocks, ID - probably too cold for April
Veyo Canyon - private sport near St. George, UT

www.kidproject.org

If you're able to find another family to go with, you'll be much happier....just 2c.


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By chrisIerickson
From Salt Lake, UT
Jul 17, 2012

BigJuggsjohnson wrote:
OK picture now TWO infants at the crag! People do u really think you will enrich a human being's life and personality if u expose them to prolonged sitting in a carrier or flying objects? Is your child gonna be able to say: oh boy when I was 9 months old my parents took me to this epic trip that I will never forget! Lets be real!


No, but they'll be able to say, "My parents still lived life after having me and took me along with them."

IMO lifestyle choices begin when your kids are young, not springing it on them when they're teenagers.


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By chrisIerickson
From Salt Lake, UT
Jul 17, 2012

chrisIerickson wrote:
No, but they'll be able to say, "My parents still lived life after having me and took me along with them." IMO lifestyle choices begin when your kids are young, not springing it on them when they're teenagers.


Figured I could help picture it....

Climbing with toddlers
Climbing with toddlers


Climbing with toddlers
Climbing with toddlers


Climbing with toddlers
Climbing with toddlers


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jul 17, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

BigJuggsjohnson wrote:
Yea very cute! But a sandbox, monkeybars, water slide and a swing with ice cream treat would be more fun! Ask your kid!


The guy didn't ask for permission to take his kids. He asked if anyone knew a place that would be conducive for it. Giving him shit for something he's apparently made his mind up on, isn't answering his question.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jul 17, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

BigJuggsjohnson wrote:
His son is just born! Just born! Isn't it selfish to try to fit him into your climbing schedule? U should build your life around your child not visa versa!


Do you have kids?


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By agd
Jul 17, 2012
alaska

Whatever you do, if there is ANY chance of rockfall, make sure your kids have helmets on if they are at the base of the crag. Can you imagine the grief you will have if they are killed by a small rock (or gear, even)?


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By Leeroy
Jul 17, 2012

BigJuggsjohnson wrote:
Kids? Me? R u out of yo mind? Im not responsible enough to be a parent.



So you freely admit to not knowing shit about raising kids or being any good at it even if you did have a clue yet you find it necessary to offer unsolicited parenting advice to total strangers over the internet.

You really do have a problem. You should seek professional help. Seriously.


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By SendaGorilla
From Boulder
Jul 17, 2012

BigJuggsjohnson wrote:
His son is just born! Just born! Isn't it selfish to try to fit him into your climbing schedule? U should build your life around your child not visa versa!


Hey EllenOT?...you're a TooL.--
and I'm not talking about the cool band with the kickass Drummer, I mean the kind you throw in a drawer when your not using it to pound a nail.

The kids not a "newborn". He's been around for "9 MONTHS".

You're OBVIOUSLy not a parent- AND GOD HELP US ALL if you Ever procreate!


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By SendaGorilla
From Boulder
Jul 17, 2012

..sorry...i HAD to feed it.. too priceless to resist.


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By Jake Jones
From Richmond, VA
Jul 17, 2012
Me and the offspring walking back to the car after a day of cragging.

Didn't you get booted from here? And you keep coming back? Why? BTW, I don't always agree with Leeroy, as a matter of fact, more often than not I disagree with him in some fashion, but he is absolutely correct here.

If you don't have kids, then you don't know what it is like to be away from them, or to want to experience things you love with them in hopes that they too will discover something that will enrich their lives- and at a much younger age than you yourself got to discover it.

Yes, crags can be dangerous, but I've also seen kids that could SWIM nearly drown in pools. I've seen kids get bitten at dog parks. I've seen kids almost die from ingesting things they're allergic to or an allergic reaction to an insect sting. I've seen kids sustain head injuries at playgrounds.

I've also seen young families with very young kids at crags bring plenty of friends willing to help along so that everyone gets to climb, the kid doesn't scream the entire time, and the kid gets to stay with his parents and get exposed to something cool at a young age. And it's all relatively safe, or as safe as it can be.

You have no frame of reference other than "I'm a nurse", which I'm utterly baffled by and don't really believe. Not to mention that has no bearing on this conversation whatsoever. That's like me saying "I have no kids but I work in IT, so you're not a good parent unless you put parental controls on your home PC to keep your kids from watching porn or to keep pervs from watching your kids." See how stupid that sounds? You sound that stupid- ALL THE TIME. You're not a parent, nor do you want to be.

Stop telling people what to do, especially when you're inexperienced and do not want the experience yourself.


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By SendaGorilla
From Boulder
Jul 17, 2012

BigJuggsjohnson wrote:
In APRIL he will be 9 MONTHS. !



maybe so, but your still a TOOL


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