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By Daryl Allan
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 21, 2013
Me and my Fetish I guess.. ;)

Shiloh, it's your picnic so it's your decision. Red has a valid point. Revisiting some old Beanfest traditions could be a fun option. Red, did you have any areas in mind that might lend well to a BF crowd (parking, games, etc)? I've been to many Mt Lemmon areas but not nearly all or enough to be able to provide suggestions.


Mike, you crack me up. I know you're getting old and all so here's a recent email to jog your memory:

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From: Daryl

Feb 1 2013

To: michael, angel, Virginia, kimberly

Okay, so I just spoke with Mike and he and Amy are up for some light cragging tomorrow. I cc'd Mike and Angel. Does lebowski sound good to everyone? Virginia, that's where we went last week. Would you be ok going to the same place twice in a row?
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That probably doesn't fit well into your argument but there it is, nonetheless. :o)

((PS: Lebowski Wall is on the East side))


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By Mike Diesen
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 21, 2013

I know. That's why I changed my argument from "all the time" to "most of the time". I went back and checked all my 1796 emails and that one plus one other were the only 2 where you were up to the east side. The other one was shake and bake. :-)


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By TopRope Princess
Feb 21, 2013

I like the idea of holding Beanfest on the east side of the Stronghold this time around...if it's going to be held in the Stronghold. I've never been aware of any problems encountered when it has been held on that side. In fact, last fall (west side) there seemed to be a considerable amount of drama with the Forest Service. I like how the Beanfest flip-flops between both sides. My vote is for the east side or choose a new location. I don't mind traveling somewhere else.


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By Daryl Allan
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 21, 2013
Me and my Fetish I guess.. ;)

lol, you two crack me up.

TopRope Princess wrote:
I've never been aware of any problems encountered when it has been held on that side.

Hence the reason for my post; perhaps you missed it. Have a look at my previous post regarding issues the FS has had with random camp sites, fire rings they have to break apart, and parking camping off on the grass following Beanfest on the east side. It's not just one or two and it's not something they forget about every year. It takes many man hours to break up, bury and re-scatter the fire rings. Staff and personnel are things they are very short on, along with patience. Also it takes a long time for those wild-cat camp sites to grow/fill back in.


TopRope Princess wrote:
In fact, last fall (west side) there seemed to be a considerable amount of drama with the Forest Service. I like how the Beanfest flip-flops between both sides. My vote is for the east side or choose a new location. I don't mind traveling somewhere else.

That *drama* had nothing to do with the location. It had to do with FS logistics. I'm not sure why you think those events would not have occurred somewhere else.

Amy/Mike, are you all signing up to chaperone and correct folks that park and camp off in the grass and build random fire rings everywhere? Of course not.. no one will. Btw, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone that's done this. Not everyone at Beanfest is from here and several show up from places that don't have issues with fragile, slow-growth environments like the Stronghold. Some come from areas where the local crag parking area is a FS parking lot or paid campground.

Let's start thinking about what's best for the longevity of Beanfest and FS/climbing community relations.

Not sure if Shiloh is considering a voting system but this should have nothing to do with flip flopping, exploring new areas, fun climbing or favorite sides. This decision *should* be about where Beanfest will have the least impact. Personally, I think Red's idea is a good one. I think it would be fun to venture back to one of the more 'historic' Beanfest sites. Maybe Scott Mac or one of our Southern Az paladins of old could chime in..


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By Mike Diesen
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 22, 2013

Hey Shiloh, maybe you could introduce us all to your favorite awesome phoenix area.

Actually it is your fest so you get to pick. East side (less problems and rif raf), West side (lots of FS, border patrol and rif raf) or some place completely different. Don't let Daryl influence you. He had his turn already. :-) And don't let me influence you either. I've also had my turn. Good luck with the planning and let me know what I can do. A treasure hunt is really fun and a good excuse to be out climbing every weekend until beanfest.


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By TopRope Princess
Feb 22, 2013

I think an entirely new area would be a lot of fun!


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By Mike Diesen
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 22, 2013

Homestead!


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By Red
From Arizona
Feb 22, 2013
Cobra Kai

Daryl Allan wrote:
Red, did you have any areas in mind that might lend well to a BF crowd (parking, games, etc)? I've been to many Mt Lemmon areas but not nearly all or enough to be able to provide suggestions.

The best place I can think of on Lemmon is the Mt Bigelow area. A couple of the camp spots are really big and have other camping spots close by. It would also be a better location weather wise if Beanfest were to be held later in the spring as it is higher elevation. However, I'd imagine we would encounter the same permit issue as Cochise, but this area does see a lot of campers and we could easily spread out between camp spots that are not far apart.


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Feb 22, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

I love it when a thread takes off -

I think from an management perspective the West Side is easier to control - if only
because the camping seems obvious and I did see a lot of rouge camping when we
had it on the East side the last time.
I personally like the East Side better, but thats my personal opinion.
If we were to have it on Lemmon, would you prefer a specific area such as Prison Camp?

I personally like the BeanFest at Cochise - and it gives us on opportunity to give back
to the area by cleaning.


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By Mike Diesen
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 22, 2013

I like Cochise too. If we have it there it should be on the east side. It's been held there off and on for over 30 years. The last several times we've had it on the west and there have been problems with other large groups. It is a BIG area for groups such as the Boy Scouts. And the last time because of the Scout group we had drama with the FS. I think that is why it is good to move it around and from side to side.

The east is only one loop for camping and I really don't see a problem with rogue camping. I think the difference is when we do it on the west side people are spread from Sheepshead to Whale dome so the camp areas outside of the Isle of Ewe (if that spot happens to be available for us) never get inspected or blamed on beanfest. If we do it on the east side I would be willing to go around and make sure everyone cleans their site when done. I camp on the east all the time so I know every nook and cranny there. That could be my donation. :-)


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By Alex McIntyre
From Tucson, AZ
Feb 22, 2013

Mike Diesen wrote:
I like Cochise too. If we have it there it should be on the east side. It's been held there off and on for over 30 years. The last several times we've had it on the west and there have been problems with other large groups. It is a BIG area for groups such as the Boy Scouts. And the last time because of the Scout group we had drama with the FS. I think that is why it is good to move it around and from side to side. The east is only one loop for camping and I really don't see a problem with rogue camping. I think the difference is when we do it on the west side people are spread from Sheepshead to Whale dome so the camp areas outside of the Isle of Ewe (if that spot happens to be available for us) never get inspected or blamed on beanfest. If we do it on the east side I would be willing to go around and make sure everyone cleans their site when done. I camp on the east all the time so I know every nook and cranny there. That could be my donation. :-)

What part of "there would have been FS drama regardless of which side was chosen for the last Beanfest" do you not understand? Daryl clearly has experience with the USFS bureaucracy. The scout group was not the cause of the drama, the size of the planned event requiring a permit was. Just because YOU don't see an issue with rogue camping doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Your opinion matters not to the forest service, who clearly do mind, do see a problem, and whose opinion actually matters. It isn't your beanfest. Just say you'd prefer the east side and stop spraying nonsense that might get Beanfest shut down.


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Feb 23, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

Ok so I was able to remove my head from my posterior long enough to make a final decision
and we have decided to make the official date for the BeanFest (drum roll please)

April 19th - 21st


I do understand that this may interfere with peoples plans to attend the PRG event
however, in accommodation for a special friend - we have chosen this date.

We appreciate the support of EVERYONE over the years and hope that you will
be able to join us as we kick off Beanfest 2013!

Please PM me if you would like to sponsor - I will be working on contacting
local entities to gather goods and supplies. There will be a raffle and I will
be supplying swag from ClimbPHX as well as from our sponsors. Did I mention
CLimbPHX will be supplying a keg from our very own local brewery - DesertEagle
Brewery? And of course, the honorary bottle of Tequila to go with the bean pot.

We will be holding the BeanFest on the East Side this year, and YES we will be very sensitive this year about rouge camping AND the impact that comes with trodding down the grasses and building makeshift fire circles, shooting guns off in the middle of the night, ect.

I FULLY understand the impact that we have on the local populace engaging in an event of this nature and will do my utmost to use the same care that I do with my local cleanup and steward activities here in Phoenix.


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By 1Eric Rhicard
Feb 23, 2013
It is a good sized roof. Photo: Jimbo

The guy in charge makes the decision and thus becomes "Beanmaster". Nice going Beanmaster.


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Feb 23, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

As unpopular as I may become :)


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By Mike Diesen
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 23, 2013

Hey Alex, that was totally uncalled for. Daryl is a good friend and climbing partner of mine. We live in the same town together and if I don't agree with him I'll tell him. Maybe even drive to his house and knock some sense in him (or let him knock some sense in me). :-) And he knows that I will because he knows me personally.

As for the FS drama, I was actually there when it happened and yes it was about the BS group. The BS told the FS what Bridgette was doing and they came over and talked to her.

I'm not trying to make enemies Just get a little hot when someone attacks me without knowing the fact.


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By Mike Diesen
From Sierra Vista, AZ
Feb 23, 2013

Shiloh, My wife pointed out to me a mistake in my previous post. What I meant was because it has been held on the west for the last 3 fests it would be nice to see it on the east for a change. Sorry if I implied that it was up to me to decide. That wasn't my intent.

Really looking forward to this beanfest. :-)


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By TopRope Princess
Feb 23, 2013

"Just say you'd prefer the east side and stop spraying nonsense that might get Beanfest shut down."

Geez, Alex! You seem really worked up. Yes, Mike could have worded things differently in his post, such as in his humble opinion the Beanfest should be on the east side, but does that really grant you a free pass to be so rude? A nicer approach is always more effective:) And as far as the "rogue" camping, if I'm not mistaken, I thought Mike offered to go around to camp sites and encourage campers to cleanup, use designated camping areas, etc.


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By Jacob Jones
From oklazona
Feb 24, 2013

the decider has decided.

looking forward to it!


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Feb 24, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

Michael - No offense would ever be taken from me
I m just happy that A. Someone replied to my post :)
B. Its Freakin BeanFest time again! No hard feelings should
be brought on by anyone. Let that shit slide - We are going
to take some preventative measures in view of the
opportunities presented with the habitat and I see NO reason
that this will be an issue. I will be contacting the rangers to see if we can
reserve some spaces up the way so that any "overflow" will have a place to crash
as well - if the need arises. I can caravan groups up if necessary but
I think with some initial guidelines - The problem is null.
I m so blessed to know so many cool people in Tucson and the Sierra Vista area
and look forward to sharing one of the highlights of my year with all of you.
The needless arguing is pointless - Lets concentrate on making this
one of the best events yet. Cool? The rest of the details are well within my
control
Cheers
- SHILOH


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By 1Eric Rhicard
Mar 4, 2013
It is a good sized roof. Photo: Jimbo

^^^Here Here!


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By Brent Corrado
Mar 22, 2013

Hello everyone,

My name is Brent Corrado and I'm a reporter for the Tombstone Epitaph. I would like to cover BeanFest 2013 and I would like to speak with any of you and get more information regarding the event. Is anyone available at all this weekend to speak with me for a few minutes? Thank you.


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Mar 27, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

Good Wed Morning to you all you in this great state!

We are 1 month away from BeanFest and a lot of work is going into making this thing
a success! We are currently designing T shirts, campaigning for swag for the Treasure Hunt -
What we need from all of you is a head count - So that we can pinpoint supplies, prepare
food and did I mention BEER?

Feel free to either reply to this thread of you can email me directly Shiloh@ClimbPHX.com

The Last Thing I thought was a Theme - we need a Theme... mmm


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Apr 2, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

We are coordinating attendee's on the Facebook Page as well as here
to determine the number of attendee's. Right now we have 23 solid attendee's
registered - and over a hundred invitees still waiting a response.

We will be having a potluck on Saturday and Breakfast on Sunday.

We will need the following Items ( Please reply with what you will be bringing
so that we can begin compiling the list)

A Partial List of Things we will need:

Tortillas (Corn or Flour)
Chicken
Steak
Lettuce
Tomatoes
Cheese
Sour Cream
Black Olives
Salad - Green Leaf Mix
Dressing
Refried Beans - Of Course!
Hot Sauce
Tortilla Chips

Eggs
Bacon
Sausage
Potatoes
Onions
Breakfast Danishes or Muffins
Bread
Orange Juice
Coffee
Fruit
Butter or Jellies


Please feel free to PM me with any questions or Message me on Facebook with any
questions. We will update this list as we start to compile provisions.

See you at the BeanFest!


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Apr 11, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

Here is the Link to Saturday's Potluck


Please feel free to update as necessary:
CLICK HERE


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By ClimbPHX.com
From Mesa AZ
Apr 22, 2013
Final Pitch on Birdland - 5.7 Red Rocks

I wanted to take a moment to thank Everyone that attended Spring Bean 2013.
I was my honor to serve the lot of you, and it was nice to be able to get out in such
an awesome area and climb with all of you!

I hope that you will visit the Facebook Page - We will be selling the T Shirts online
from the event in the next couple days!

We would also like to thank Barrio Brewing in Tucson for their generous
donation of a Keg for the event. Zona was so good to us, and, although he wasn't
able to attend, facilitated a last minute donation after the scheduled keg fell through!

I hope everyone had a good time, and I look forward to seeing you all again in the Fall.

FaceBook Page


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