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By Geir Hundal
From Tucson, AZ
Jul 24, 2009
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i've started a new thread which i hope will be a positive outcome of this thread. this thread is to discuss guidelines for removal or changing fixed hardware in southern AZ. for those interested in this discussion, feel free to chime in.

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/arizona__new_mexico/guideli>>>>>


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By shawn bradley
From tucson
Jul 26, 2009

Mike Diesen wrote:
This is the truest statement on here. We hide behind a keyboard and pound our chest, dictate what others should think and do, brag about how big it is etc. The computer is nothing more than another 2 ton weapon. How many of us have gotten cut off on the road just to scream at the other driver, blow our horn and flip them off? And yet they have proven that the only one that effects (think stress and what it does to a person) is the one getting pissed off? I get why Scott won't respond. If anyone has a problem with me and started calling me names in some spineless hide-behind-a-keyboard-in-the-middle-of-the-night computer forum I wouldn't respond either. In fact I probably wouldn't even pay attention to it. The computer, just like a car, is nothing more than a spineless persons weapon. Why not grow some balls and meet Scott face to face. Call him spineless to his face. Tell him he needs counseling to his face. Threaten to chop all his routes to his face. Tell him you hate him to his face ... I absolutely HATE computers. And I'm a software engineer. I gotta get back to work. Oh, and as far as an adequate deterrent, if someone wanted to mess with me or my routes, meet me face to face. We'll come up with an adequate deterrent.



The analogy is inaccurate. These people know each other, some of them very well. This is not some anonymous flipping of the bird to another driver whom we would never see again.

I've been following this thread since it started and have some thoughts I would like to express. I don't have time at the moment.
I'll try before the day is out.


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By Scott M. McNamara
Jul 28, 2009

NEW DEVELOPMENT!

Obama invites Scott and Eric to the White House for a beer. Stay tuned.


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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Jul 29, 2009
Splitter Jams on the Israel/Palestine Security Wall.

I'LL CLIMB WITH YOUR MAMA!! THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO A SPORT BOLTER IN AMERICA!!!!


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By Braxton Norwood
From Tucson
Jul 29, 2009
One of the many sweet moves on Morbius. Pic by Pete Piek.

Shawn Mitchell wrote:
I'LL CLIMB WITH YOUR MAMA!! THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO A SPORT BOLTER IN AMERICA!!!!


Yeah. Wait...WTF?


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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Jul 29, 2009
Splitter Jams on the Israel/Palestine Security Wall.

Braxton Norwood wrote:
Yeah. Wait...WTF?

LOL. It relates to Scott's post.

In the mean time, we got a call from an agitated Southern Arizonan about suspicious tampering activity. Would you please step outside and show your identification and bolt-chopping permit?

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Scott M. McNamara wrote:
Obama invites Scott and Eric to the White House for a beer. Stay tuned.

Was that to calm the angry backlash after he posted on Mountain Project that they behaved stupidly?


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By Scott M. McNamara
Jul 29, 2009

Yes, no doubt in part. For better or for worse, in trad climbs or sport, these guys are my friends.


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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Jul 29, 2009
Splitter Jams on the Israel/Palestine Security Wall.

Scott M. McNamara wrote:
Yes, no doubt in part. For better or for worse, in trad climbs or sport, these guys are my friends.


Oh, man. Sorry! I guess that joke was too obscure. "He" is Obama, not you. It was about why Obama invited Scott and Eric to the White House, not why you posted the announcement.

To clarify...Obama invited the Cambridge cop and the Harvard prof to the White House for a beer in large part to quell the uproar that erupted after he said the police had "behaved stupidly" when they arrested the professor.

So when you joked about the Big Guy inviting Scott and Eric to the White House, I just took the joke one step further back in time and gave it the same storyline...Obama waded into the MP dispute and posted that the dudes behaved stupidly. Then people got mad, it blew up in his face, and to calm things down he's playing peacemaker by having them over to The House for a beer--same joke, really, just at a different point in the story...


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By Shawn Mitchell
From Broomfield
Jul 29, 2009
Splitter Jams on the Israel/Palestine Security Wall.

Braxton Norwood wrote:
Yeah. Wait...WTF?

And Braxton, FWIW: "Ya, I'll talk to yo mama outside!" and "This is what happens to a black man in America!" are two of the things that Henry Louis Gates reportedly yelled at Officer Crowley. I just paraphrased to loosely piggy back off of Scott M's theme from the prior post...


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