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Jun 17, 2013
Enjoying 'Ground Affects'.
Thumbs down to Ape Index and the crew that went to Enchanted Tower this weekend for violating the fire restrictions. There were signs posted everywhere, notices on the web, and we even came over and informed you. Such actions reflect poorly on our community and jeopardize access.

That said you were all very pleasant and a joy to be around. I look forward to running into your crew and checking out the gym.

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Hendrixson
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Sep 1, 2007
3,186 points
Jun 17, 2013
Cobra Kai
Weak.

Was this climbers that frequent Ape Index or staff and owners from Ape Index?
Red
From Arizona
Joined Sep 11, 2008
1,322 points
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Jun 17, 2013
Enjoying 'Ground Affects'.
My understanding, which admittedly could be wrong, was that it was the owner and a group he was leading. Hendrixson
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Sep 1, 2007
3,186 points
Jun 17, 2013
This is standard behavior for the Ape Index crew at Jacks Canyon... and it was the owner that I spoke to there... they bring in chain saws and cut standing trees and leave their signs around after they leave for others to clean up... and I spoke with him and tried to inform him that cutting standing trees was illegal and I believe his quote was: "that is what I do... I cut shit down" JD Kendall
From Winslow, AZ
Joined Feb 5, 2010
366 points
Jun 17, 2013
tanuki
JD Kendall wrote:
This is standard behavior for the Ape Index crew at Jacks Canyon... and it was the owner that I spoke to there... they bring in chain saws and cut standing trees and leave their signs around after they leave for others to clean up... and I spoke with him and tried to inform him that cutting standing trees was illegal and I believe his quote was: "that is what I do... I cut shit down"


If that actually happened ( I wasn't there ), then the Ape Index owner / crew truly sucks big donkey balls.
NC Rock Climber
From The Oven, AKA Phoenix
Joined Dec 6, 2009
121 points
Administrator
Jun 17, 2013
FA of The Great Potato (a.k.a. Mt. Ore Ida), Withi...
Super lame and disappointing to hear. I'd suggest an email to them, apeindexinfo@gmail.com, including the link to the fire restrictions in the Cibola National Forest. Jason Halladay
From Los Alamos, NM
Joined Oct 19, 2005
9,538 points
Jun 17, 2013
A steep climb too.
Hey John, did you have to go in the back way ? jbak
Joined Jan 30, 2006
2,692 points
Jun 17, 2013
Those guys suck.
I will not be going to their gym, ever.
EWod
Joined Apr 11, 2013
8 points
Jun 17, 2013
EWod wrote:
Those guys suck. I will not be going to their gym, ever.


Lol do you even live in the area? Or would you have EVER gone even if this thread wasnt posted?
BSheriden
Joined May 18, 2013
3 points
Jun 17, 2013
In the traverse section, double rainbow in the bac...
BSheriden wrote:
Lol do you even live in the area? Or would you have EVER gone even if this thread wasnt posted?

He does, indeed, live in the area. It is entirely plausible he would have gone to Ape Index at some point.
Alex McIntyre
From Tucson, AZ
Joined Jan 14, 2011
377 points
Jun 17, 2013
 Morning Dew ,self portrait
Someone whip out the smartphone and catch this fucknut in the act.
Public humiliation can go along way to modifying one's behavior. Turn them in somehow. No matter how pleasant they were to be around.
The worst thing you could do is check out their gym. Screw that! And them!
s.price
From PS,CO
Joined Dec 1, 2010
1,366 points
Jun 17, 2013
Ape index crew are bunch of gym rats. They dont know how to climb and the gym is a piece of shit. it will be closed soon anyway. Boris Kerzhner
Joined Sep 30, 2009
1 points
Jun 18, 2013
Me and Holden at the "Matterhorn"
I can't say I would appreciate anyone cutting standing trees, and violating desert fire restrictions (in June no less). Much less climbers. This crosses the line of one "douchebag," and into the realm of true pitty for anyone expecting to learn from this moron.
Learn to conduct yourself outdoors, or stay in the fucking gym.
-Mackley
Robbie Mackley
From Tucson, AZ
Joined May 6, 2010
90 points
Jun 19, 2013
Even moderately sociopathic people have trouble with normal social emotions like shame, so hitting them in the pocketbook might be the only thing that helps.

But not all is lost, according to their website you can always hire them for afterschool classes where they will teach your kids lessons in "teamwork and responsibility".
Christian
From Casa do Cacete
Joined Jul 22, 2005
1,751 points
Jun 30, 2013
Great quality rock on this one!
Ape Index blows Mark Mueller
From Flagstaff, AZ
Joined Nov 4, 2011
176 points


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