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Feb 9, 2010
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Kai Huang wrote:
Anyone in front range has good beta for The Web at Eldo? 5.13ab, 25ft, 4 bolts, classic, with Zero approach... sounds like a perfect project for me.


I have never tried it so I have no beta on the moves but I was there last weekend and there are project draws on it. Seems like the perfect time to try it!
J mac
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Feb 9, 2010
Device Ignitor Left Crux.
Pinklebear wrote:
I can't remember the name of the climb, but the 5.13a/b right above the National Forest sign, off the road in Maple Canyon about halfway between the Box and the parking for the Minimum Wall, etc, seemed like the coolest climb at the grade there to me. Also very good is the 5.13a out the center left side of the Compound, high up the road in Maple. 14 bolts long, total pumpfest.


Sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out next time I'm in Maple.
mattjbudd
From West Valley, UT
Joined Sep 17, 2007
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Feb 9, 2010
Kai Huang wrote:
Anyone in front range has good beta for The Web at Eldo? 5.13ab, 25ft, 4 bolts, classic, with Zero approach... sounds like a perfect project for me.


The web is awesome but not to be underestimated. Though the "business" of the route is indeed over in 25 feet, they pack quite a punch. It feels like pretty standard 13b IF you find the right beta. I think it would be a very difficult(but very proud) first 13.
Arnold Braker
From golden, co
Joined Jun 28, 2007
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Feb 9, 2010
Pinklebear
mattjbudd wrote:
Sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out next time I'm in Maple.


Good climbs for sure. If you visit Colorado, Beer Run (Rifle) and Milk Bone (Flatirons) get my votes as the two best 13a's.
Pinklebear
Joined May 8, 2006
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Feb 9, 2010
Arnold Braker wrote:
The web is awesome but not to be underestimated. Though the "business" of the route is indeed over in 25 feet, they pack quite a punch. It feels like pretty standard 13b IF you find the right beta. I think it would be a very difficult(but very proud) first 13.



Awesome and Proud is what I want to hear. I can deal with powerful or technical moves but just want to make sure there is no show stopper move that's too far to reach for a shorty like me, 5'5-6 with 0 index. What time of the day is good for this route? What routines do people do to warm up for it?
Kai Huang
From Thornton, CO
Joined May 9, 2008
62 points
Feb 9, 2010
Pinklebear wrote:
I can't remember the name of the climb, but the 5.13a/b right above the National Forest sign, off the road in Maple Canyon about halfway between the Box and the parking for the Minimum Wall, etc, seemed like the coolest climb at the grade there to me.


Captain Fantastic or somesuch. Big pulls between big holds on a steep wall, then techi tiny crimpin and pimpin to the chains.

Sounds like Hell and the Diablo wall fit your style very well.

I would do a lot of 4x4s at the Front, and make the trek down to Momentum to see how you are stacking up after a few months.
Brendan N. (grayhghost)
From Salt Lake City, Utah
Joined Oct 26, 2006
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Feb 10, 2010
Llama Races- Fairplay, Colorado
Kai Huang wrote:
Anyone in front range has good beta for The Web at Eldo? 5.13ab, 25ft, 4 bolts, classic, with Zero approach... sounds like a perfect project for me.


Dude, the Web is 13b. And not an easy one. IMO. Try White Lies also in Eldo.
Hank Caylor
From Golden, CO
Joined Dec 9, 2003
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Technosurfing, Rumney. Photo by Seth Hamel.
Pinklebear wrote:
I can't remember the name of the climb, but the 5.13a/b right above the National Forest sign, off the road in Maple Canyon about halfway between the Box and the parking for the Minimum Wall, etc, seemed like the coolest climb at the grade there to me.


Would that be Captain Bullet? If so, I agree that it would be a perfect first 13.
Jay Knower
From Campton, NH
Joined Jul 1, 2001
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Feb 10, 2010
I thought Captain Bullet was HARD for an a. Maybe because it was in the sun but that finish is full on. steve edwards
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Technosurfing, Rumney. Photo by Seth Hamel.
steve edwards wrote:
I thought Captain Bullet was HARD for an a. Maybe because it was in the sun but that finish is full on.



It did too. It gets a slash grade, right? 13a/b? If it's your first, no one will downgrade it to a 12. :)
Jay Knower
From Campton, NH
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Feb 10, 2010
Hank Caylor wrote:
Dude, the Web is 13b. And not an easy one. IMO. Try White Lies also in Eldo.



agreed. don't let the height fool you...25 Ft just means you have a lot, and I mean A LOT, harder rock climbing to do in a much shorter distance.

For the front range...I'd say Vasodilator, for my money, best 13a on the front range. Snakewatching in the Flatirons is a dead vertical 150 foot crimpfest (if that's what you're into).

Utah...Sprout is fun, but chipped and drilled all to hell. No single move is a 5.13 move, maybe mid 5.12. it's long too...you'd build some endurance just working the route.

I'd second Jeremy, go to IC, aid up something rad, work it on TR, send and be way proud of yourself. Or wait til summer and go to Mill Creek and climb Aesthetics (13a)....and let me know if you think it's 13a or 14a......
Blake Cash
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Feb 10, 2010
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grayhghost wrote:
Captain Fantastic or somesuch. Big pulls between big holds on a steep wall, then techi tiny crimpin and pimpin to the chains. Sounds like Hell and the Diablo wall fit your style very well. I would do a lot of 4x4s at the Front, and make the trek down to Momentum to see how you are stacking up after a few months.


Yeah I need to start to do the 4x4s. The summer is getting close.
mattjbudd
From West Valley, UT
Joined Sep 17, 2007
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Feb 10, 2010
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Blake Cash wrote:
agreed. don't let the height fool you...25 Ft just means you have a lot, and I mean A LOT, harder rock climbing to do in a much shorter distance. For the front range...I'd say Vasodilator, for my money, best 13a on the front range. Snakewatching in the Flatirons is a dead vertical 150 foot crimpfest (if that's what you're into). Utah...Sprout is fun, but chipped and drilled all to hell. No single move is a 5.13 move, maybe mid 5.12. it's long too...you'd build some endurance just working the route. I'd second Jeremy, go to IC, aid up something rad, work it on TR, send and be way proud of yourself. Or wait til summer and go to Mill Creek and climb Aesthetics (13a)....and let me know if you think it's 13a or 14a......


My hands are sweating just thinking about it.
mattjbudd
From West Valley, UT
Joined Sep 17, 2007
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Feb 10, 2010
Hank Caylor wrote:
Dude, the Web is 13b. And not an easy one. IMO. Try White Lies also in Eldo.



Which one is White Lies? i can't seem to find it on MP nor the new guide book...


and how does The Web compare to Tunnel Vision?
Kai Huang
From Thornton, CO
Joined May 9, 2008
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Feb 10, 2010
5.13a is a good grade for aesthetic beauty. Here is some shots to get you motivated.
All of these are within 4-5 hours from Salt Lake.

5.13a
5.13a


5.13a
5.13a


5.13a
5.13a


Secret 13
Secret 13


excommunication
excommunication


paper crane
paper crane


secret 13 area
secret 13 area


crush the skull
crush the skull


5.13a
5.13a


el nino
el nino


tacos diablos
tacos diablos


5.13a
5.13a


golden eye
golden eye


pinkus organic
pinkus organic
Brendan N. (grayhghost)
From Salt Lake City, Utah
Joined Oct 26, 2006
396 points
Feb 10, 2010
Below "Inspect Her Gadget" at HP40 after...
Those are some great photos. How about adding the route names and locations... Awesome!!!

- Luke
Luke Stefurak
From Seattle, WA
Joined Jan 26, 2006
2,411 points
Feb 10, 2010
Kai Huang wrote:
Which one is White Lies? i can't seem to find it on MP nor the new guide book... and how does The Web compare to Tunnel Vision?



Tunnel Vision is light duty 13b and worlds easier than the web.
Blake Cash
Joined May 27, 2007
195 points
Feb 10, 2010
Device Ignitor Left Crux.
grayhghost wrote:
5.13a is a good grade for aesthetic beauty. Here is some shots to get you motivated. All of these are within 4-5 hours from Salt Lake.


grayhghost, it looks like most of these climbs are in Millcreek Moab. Where can you get a good guide book of Millcreek?
mattjbudd
From West Valley, UT
Joined Sep 17, 2007
441 points
Feb 10, 2010
Oddly Millcreek is in the minority there.

1.) Uinta mountains
2.) Henry mountains
3.) Lander limestone
4.) redrock
5.) castle valley
6.) millcreek
7.) redrock, same route
8.) millcreek
9.) uintas, same route
10.) yosemite, el cap
11.) Alta
12.) uintas
13.) lcc
14.) Henry mountains


The best way to experience millcreek is without a guide book, or just buy the beer and I will show you when the snow melts.
12.)
Brendan N. (grayhghost)
From Salt Lake City, Utah
Joined Oct 26, 2006
396 points
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Jan 1, 2011
Llama Races- Fairplay, Colorado
Kai Huang wrote:
Which one is White Lies? i can't seem to find it on MP nor the new guide book.


mountainproject.com/v/colorado...

It's the same route.
Hank Caylor
From Golden, CO
Joined Dec 9, 2003
594 points
Jan 6, 2011
If you come to Saint George/VRG

Joe Six Pack 13a

Description
on the planet earth wall shares first two or three bolts with red neck! one of the best routes for the grade anywhere!! stellar rock lots'o climbing and killer movement make up this gem.. watch out for the thumb move at about 80ft. truly amazing!

Protection
Bolts, but many people quake in there boots on this sporty pitch!!

mountainproject.com/v/arizona/...
Matthew P
From Saint George, UT
Joined Oct 18, 2009
10 points
Jan 10, 2011
You should go to to Chadbourne and climb some of the most righteous choss the wasatch has to offer. I recommend Beam and Coke, though not 5.13a it is 12d, so its close. Four deep in the Hoopti is 13a, I've never tried it but it has poison ivy at the base and a hornets nest halfway to the top. BADASS! Ty Gregory
From Salt Lake City
Joined Nov 20, 2007
121 points
Nov 29, 2012
Below "Inspect Her Gadget" at HP40 after...
Bump for some sweet photos! Luke Stefurak
From Seattle, WA
Joined Jan 26, 2006
2,411 points
Apr 24, 2014
are those photos of blue @ the Hoop? Cowboy Roy
From SLC, UT
Joined Aug 9, 2011
84 points
Apr 24, 2014
any infor on the henry mountain route it looks amazing Cowboy Roy
From SLC, UT
Joined Aug 9, 2011
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