Anasazi VCS Blue vs Golden
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Whats the difference between the VCS blue (petroglyphs) and the Golden? |
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C4 rubber on blue, Onyx on Gold |
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What's the difference? |
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Many discussions around the different rubbers. See one here: mountainproject.com/v/what-… |
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I'm going to quote Locker from that discussion, it's probably the most informative post in there: |
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Everyone assumes the only difference between the Anasazi shoes is type of rubber, color, and laces vs Velcro. And Five Ten's crappy web descriptions sure don't help to clarify the differences. |
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Doug Hutchinson wrote:Everyone assumes the only difference between the Anasazi shoes is type of rubber, color, and laces vs Velcro. And Five Ten's crappy web descriptions sure don't help to clarify the differences. The missing factor, which can be huge, is the amount of tension coming from the tensioned heel rand (which is the factor some people HATE about Anasazis but I prefer a flat last and some heel tension rather than downturned). The Blues have less tension than the Golden/Tan Anasazis and since the Blues have C4, they feel a little softer. This makes the Blues a little more comfortable but slightly less aggressive. I can use the Blues on longer routes but the Tans are my go tos on harder sport routes. In my unscientific testing, the heel tension (which translates to how aggressive the shoe feels goes from least to most: Mocs, Blues, Verde (and I assume the new Pinks), Tans, Blancos. I found it amusing that many thought the Verdes and Blancos were the same shoe in a different color/rubber because they are much different shoes. On a related note, I wish they didn't label their new shoe the Anasazi Guide because the toe is much more blunt than the rest of the Anasazi line and it feels like a beginner shoe. Anyone like the Guide (I only tried on in a store).Really? I own one pair of each in the same size and I always thought the only difference was the rubber. My tans are at the resoler right now but I'll have to compare side by side when I get them back. I can't say I really noticed much in the way of different performance but then again the tans are newer and I probably would have attributed any increased performance to that and/or the stiffer rubber. |
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When Onyx came out and I posted that I felt it was less sticky than C4, I got a lot of "really?, I can't tell the difference" too. Same with heel in the Blancos - it has twice the thickness of rubber to tension the heel compared to the Verdes but I have friends who thought they were just buying a cooler looking white shoe when the Blancos are really a much stiffer, more aggressive, better edging but also a more uncomfortable shoe compared to the Verdes. |
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Doug Hutchinson wrote:The Blues have less tension than the Golden/Tan Anasazis and since the Blues have C4, they feel a little softer. This makes the Blues a little more comfortable but slightly less aggressive.Hrmm. That's interesting, i wish they'd advertise that. I have some problems on the back of my heal which make high tension shoes unbearable. I have a pair of tans and they climb superbly, but i cannot wear them for long. I'll have to try and find a pair of blues to try on. Right now my go-to shoe is the Galileo because of it's very low tension heel. |
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I would describe the Galileo as having no heel tension and the Blue definitely has some so the Blue may still not work for you. The Evolv Pontas is like a stiffer Galileo and also has no heel tension. I feel the Pontas, like a lot of Evolv shoes was a Five Ten rip off (copy of the Anasazi VCS) but doesn't climb as well - but it is not a bad shoe either so you may want to check it out. |
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Doug Hutchinson wrote:I would describe the Galileo as having no heel tension and the Blue definitely has some so the Blue may still not work for you. The Evolv Pontas is like a stiffer Galileo and also has no heel tension. I feel the Pontas, like a lot of Evolv shoes was a Five Ten rip off (copy of the Anasazi VCS) but doesn't climb as well - but it is not a bad shoe either so you may want to check it out. The funny thing for me is I thought my dream shoe was the tan VCS without tensioned heel but getting the Blues made with realize a lot of the performance of the Tans comes from the heel. I did not notice this much when the Blues were brand new but as they wore, they became less aggressive whereas the Tans seem to stay the same throughout the life of the shoe. I suspect the Tans also have a slightly stiffer midsole too. The Galileos were a tad too soft for me.Hmmm...weird. Should I be able to tell this difference by looking at the shoes? I just got my tans back from the resoler. At my disposal I have: 1) A pair of old, resoled, blown out blues. 2) A pair of newish but well used tans on their first resole. 3) A brand new pair of blues. I'd swear they were all the same shoe just with different states of wear...but then again I don't really know what I'm looking for. Odd that 5.10 doesn't advertise these things. |
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Doug Hutchinson wrote:I would describe the Galileo as having no heel tension and the Blue definitely has some so the Blue may still not work for you. The Evolv Pontas is like a stiffer Galileo and also has no heel tension. I feel the Pontas, like a lot of Evolv shoes was a Five Ten rip off (copy of the Anasazi VCS) but doesn't climb as well - but it is not a bad shoe either so you may want to check it out. The funny thing for me is I thought my dream shoe was the tan VCS without tensioned heel but getting the Blues made with realize a lot of the performance of the Tans comes from the heel. I did not notice this much when the Blues were brand new but as they wore, they became less aggressive whereas the Tans seem to stay the same throughout the life of the shoe. I suspect the Tans also have a slightly stiffer midsole too. The Galileos were a tad too soft for me.I've got the Pontas, but I blindly ordered them when evolve had the on closeout ($35!), I think i got the a half size too small, they're too narrow and I have the same issues in them with my heel flaring up. Not really a fan of the toebox in them, it's narrower/pointier. The galileos are definitely a stiffer shoe and much less sensitive than the tans, they just have no heel tension, so they might feel a little softer/less focused. Kind of a give-and-take thing there i suppose. I would love it if they would put an anasazi toebox with the new stonelands heel. Those heels felt great, but that new square-ish toe box didn't feel right, I didn't like the outside edging ability of the shoe. Anyway - to bring this back to the original subect, the blue sound like something i might want to try if they are in fact less tensioned than the tans. I too prefer flat-lasted shoes. |
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@Doug - Ughh. Super upset about my purchase of the Anasazi Guides. |