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YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ British: MVS 4b

Type: Trad, TR, 80'
Consensus:  YDS: 5.7 French: 5a Ewbanks: 15 UIAA: V+ British: MVS 4b [details]
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Submitted By: Bobrunning on May 11, 2011
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It is a fine route. Rating is consistent through the whole route.


Eight feet to the left of Push-Mi Pull-Yu. Climb into the large alcove. Once out move to the left and climb straight up.


Nice top rope setup. Can be shared with Push-Mi Pull-Yu

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Alex, at the ancient tricam
Alex, at the ancient tricam
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By Doug Hemken
May 11, 2011

Makes a good lead. The fixed tricam has been there for at least 15 years, so you shouldn't trust it for much.

By Burt Lindquist
From: Madison, WI
May 11, 2011

I think the red line is a bit off in this photo. Doesn't Agnostic climb up into the big niche and step out onto the ledge above it then up the crack straight above. It's minor I know but the moves indicated by the photo up the face to the left of the alcove are much harder then 5.7, steeper, and involve a good runout.

By Doug Hemken
May 11, 2011

I'd agree with Burt.

Fun route, I always enjoy it. Thanks for adding it to MP!