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By Mark E Dixon
From Sprezzatura, Someday
Jul 21, 2013
Sure, I can belay

Finn the Human wrote:
Since you seem to have missed it... Dana is a man.

Not according to the sage of MP

Ellenore Zimmerman wrote:
Dana I hope your man is good to you..you know how them climbing bums can be girl!

I rest my case


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By Finn the Human
From The Land of Ooo
Jul 21, 2013
Mathematical!

Mark E Dixon wrote:
Not according to the sage of MP ... I rest my case


Ah, you are obviously correct, sir.


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By Ellenore Zimmerman
Jul 21, 2013
me

It don't matter...


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By 20 kN
From Hawaii
Jul 22, 2013

Ellenore Zimmerman wrote:
As far as I remember the routes needed to be more imaginative.

I find that interesting. I have gone out of my way to climb at the best gyms in America and Movement by far and large has the best setting of any gym in the United States, including Sharma's Sender One. Movement's 3-star routes are better than many gym's 5-star routes IMO. But to each their own I guess. Regardless, if you think your workout is hard, my co-workers would be happy to show you what a real workout is all about. Most people's hardest day is probably easier than the SEAL's easiest day.



I recall a past event where a number of US Olympians spent a few days training with the SEALs. The Olympians got schooled. Some even cried.


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By adamx
Jul 22, 2013

20 kN wrote:
The Olympians got schooled. Some even cried.


Let's see what happens when we put 100m sprinters in the octogon with guys who train MMA full time.

Let's see what happens when we put olympic hurdlers in a NFL camp.

Of course someone highly specialized in one sport will (initially) struggle when you completely change their workout. Want to see a seal cry? Put them in an olympic _________ training camp for a few days. =/=

I've climbed at Movement once.. I remember having a good time, but don't recall anything particularly noteworthy, one way or the other. Keeping an open mind for next time - you're the second person to give rave reviews recently.


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By 20 kN
From Hawaii
Jul 22, 2013

adamx wrote:
Let's see what happens when we put 100m sprinters in the octogon with guys who train MMA full time. Let's see what happens when we put olympic hurdlers in a NFL camp. Of course someone highly specialized in one sport will (initially) struggle when you completely change their workout. Want to see a seal cry? Put them in an olympic _________ training camp for a few days. =/= I've climbed at Movement once.. I remember having a good time, but don't recall anything particularly noteworthy, one way or the other. Keeping an open mind for next time - you're the second person to give rave reviews recently.

How is a thorough workout specialized? The SEALs did not train them how to remove a knife from a black-belt, they subjected them to heavy physical training and some mental training which is something any athlete has experience with. Sure, they made the students perform unusual stunts, such as carrying a heavy-ass log through cold water, but if your entire career revolves around working out and beating the competition, an event like that should not send you hurling to your mother--unless it is hard, really hard.

adamx wrote:
Want to see a seal cry? Put them in an olympic _________ training camp for a few days.


Meh, a large sum of a SEAL's training revolves around a situation where the odds are always against him, there is no hope and everyone is trying to kill him. I dont think a SEAL would have an issue with any type of Olympic training.


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By Rajiv Ayyangar
From Portland, ME
Jul 22, 2013
Cut! Sadly my flash attempt met with dismal pump-failure two bolts later.

I can't speak to the strength part of the "Team of Two", but the climbing part (Justen) is phenomenally insightful and effective. He has a broad and deep understanding of the different dimensions of climbing technique, and is really good at explaining different concepts.

The past year I've seen slow, steady progress with hangboarding and other strength training, but I saw a dramatic and surprising spike in performance after a few coaching sessions.


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By CJC
Jul 22, 2013

If you want to know the kind of training a Seal must endure read 'American Sniper' by Chris Kyle. He's not a great writer but he does detail some interesting aspects of becoming a Seal.

Pretty fuckin intense if you ask me...


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By Ellenore Zimmerman
Jul 22, 2013
me

Seals will not cry...the doves do...


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By Morgan Patterson
Administrator
Jul 22, 2013
Stoked...

Did you guys see that episode of Naked and Afraid on the discovery channel recently where they had a Seal on and he was all but crying and this surfer chick had to take care of him the whole time? Made an impression on me... and it wasn't a postive one regarding seals. Kinda like ya you know how to kill another human being efficently, great but you couldn't save your own ass on an island by yourself!


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By adamx
Jul 22, 2013

Hey, I have no doubt they train hard, certainly harder than your average soldier, but I think it's ridiculous to have olympic athletes train like them "for a few days" and say it's a fair comparison.

I'd argue most world class athletes in any physically demanding sport would be holding their own within a few weeks time, catch up to the seals level of fitness in a few months, and eventually beat them at their own game, largely due to genetics and grit... knowing what it takes to be world class. I've done a lot of these "seal style" workouts. Hardest part in my eyes is the long distance swimming, but that's probably because I suck at swimming, and don't enjoy it when I force myself to.

Enough of that, though. Yo zimmerman, look forward to reading your program in it's entirety.


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